Saturday, November 3, 2012

Adyathmic Discussion --330 ( 'I' itself is an illusion)

You are not the self. Till you hold ‘I’ as self you are holding false as reality. One has to get rid of the ‘I’. 'I' is the physical shackle. 

· ‘I’ is ignorance.
· ‘I’ is illusion.

· ‘I’ is duality

· ‘I’ is universe.
· ‘I’ is waking.
· ‘I’ is dream.
· ‘I’ is mind

What is ‘I’? The ‘I’ disappears in deep sleep, so what is the use of being attached to it? It is illusory.

There is really no ‘I’. It dies in deep sleep. But the notion of its unreality will gradually grasp by the receptive seekers. Individuality is illusory.--FORMLESS PATH

  • Tarun Patwal "I" is harmless in its practical sense........notion "I' is this that causes trouble
  • Santthosh Kumaar The 'I' itself is an  illusion. Illusion is the cause of duality. duality is the illusory prison.The ‘I’, body, ego and the world appear together and disappear together. The reason disappears when ‘I’ disappears. Since everyone thinks ‘I’ as self all these doubts and confusion arises. Whenever there is ‘I’ there is division, conflict, which is disorder. 

    When ‘I’ disappears then there is universal order, which alone is real. The formless soul is Witness of the three states. One cannot say ‘I’ alone is illusion because ‘I’ is not the body but 'I' is mind. The mind is present in the form of universe. The universe appears as waking or dream (duality) and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality). Thus one has to learn to view and judge the three states on the standpoint of the formless witness, in order to know “what is truth” to know “what is untruth(illusion)”. 

    When ‘I’ is there all diversities is experienced. Absent of ‘I’ there is no experience of diversity. Thus there is a need to understand the fact that, ‘I’ or mind is not limited to the waking entity alone because 'I' is the whole universe. All the confusion will be cleared when one stops his verification on the base false self (waking entity or ego) and learns to reason on the base on the formless self (soul).