Thursday, February 14, 2013

The religion is nothing to do with the pursuit of the truth***


Comparing Vedas with Koran or Bible or any other scriptures will not yield the truth, which is beyond form, time, and space. 

The religion was introduced in the past for the benefit of the populace which is incapable to grasp the ultimate truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.  All The religions   of the world are based on the form, time, and space. Thus, the religion is nothing to do with  the pursuit of the  truth because the truth is not belief and religion is based on the belief.  
 The belief is based on the individual whereas the Soul, the innermost Self is not an individual because the Soul is ever formless, timeless and spaceless existence.  
The scriptures are not necessary to realize the ultimate truth or Brahman or God or Spirit.  The scriptures are meant for the ignorant populace.

Sage Sri,  Sankara said: ~ Neither by the practice of yoga nor philosophy, nor by good works nor by learning, does liberation come, but only through the realization that Atman and Brahman are one in no other way.(1) VivekaChudamani v 56, pg 25

Sri, Sankara said: The world is unreal and Brahman alone is real.  It means the birth, life and death, which happens within the world, has to be unreal.  If birth, life, and death are unreal, then the rebirth and reincarnation and the Avataric concept has to be unreal. Thus, it is for the seeker to find out, on what standpoint the world becomes unreal, to know the Brahman, which is ultimate truth or God. 

By studying Vedas or Koran, or Bible or any other scriptures will not yield the truth, which is beyond form, time,  and space.  The truth beyond the form, time and space is the Spirit or God.  One must know God in truth not a belief of God. The belief is not God. The diverse beliefs have diverse ideas of God.  The beliefs have no value in the domain of the truth.

That is why Lord Krishna Says Ch ~ V:~ Those who know me in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

Rig-Veda 1-164-46 and Y.V 32-1 clearly mention that God is “One”.

RIG VEDA~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Yajur Veda also says:~  God has no image and His name is Holy.  (32.3)”

The Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material (Gita 14.27)

 The rituals based on belief are meant for the ignorant populace.

That is why Mundaka Upanishad condemn rituals.  The Para or Higher knowledge is the knowledge of the Supreme Being while the Apara or Lower Knowledge is that of following sacrificial rites and ceremonies. (1/2/ 1 – 6)


The scriptures are meant for the ignorant mass, which strongly believes, the experience of the world in which they are born, live and die as a reality.

 The ultimate truth or Brahman or God cannot be attained by the study of the scriptures of any religion, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books, then why to compare Vedas with Bible or Koran or any other religious scriptures to realize the ultimate truth, which is beyond form, time and space. 
Katha Upanishad: ~  This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. (Katha Upanishad Ch-II -23-P-20)

Mundaka Upanishad: ~   This Atman cannot be attained through the study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained. It is Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. (3 –page-70 Upanishads by Nikilanada)

The above passages further prove that: Self-knowledge cannot be attained by study of the Vedas and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge. 

Sage Sri, Sankara say:~ Keep the scriptures for children, but throw them on the fire for wise seekers.

In Brahma Sutras Sage Sri, Sankara takes for granted, assumes that a world was created: He there mixes dogmatic theology with philosophy.

That God created the world is an absolute lie; nevertheless you will find Sage Sri, Sankara (in his commentary on Vedanta Sutras) clearly says this! He has to adapt his teachings to his audience, reserving the highest for philosophical minds.

The text of Brahma Sutras is based on religion, dogmatism, but in the commentary Sage Sri, Sankara cleverly introduced some philosophy. If it is objected that a number of Upanishads are equally dogmatic because they also begin by assuming Brahman, but a few Upanishads do not, but prove Brahman at the end of a train of proof.

The causality and creation, but these are for religious people only.  Religion is only for those who are unable to understand truth beyond the form, time, and space. Religion is not final. It only gives satisfaction to the populace. The self - knowledge is for the whole humanity to free them from experiencing the birth, life, death and  the world as reality.

People of small intelligence follow religion and believe that the world was created by God. But how do they know that He did so? When a pot is created, one can see both pot and its maker, but not in the case of the world.

Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is meant only for those who have intense urge, and courage to accept the truth with humility and reject the untruth. Since people start comparing with their scriptural knowledge, it becomes impossible to assimilate and realize the Advaitic truth.   Therefore, there is no need to convince anyone other than our own selves to get a firm conviction. 




Sage Sri, Goudpada quotes from the Upanishads: ~ “There's no plurality here***



Causality taught in the Upanishads is only to enable us to understand the supreme truth of no-origination. The world is not different from the Soul, the innermost Self.   The Soul, the innermost Self is present in the form of the consciousness.  The Soul is ultimate truth or Brahman or God.

The consciousness is not different from the world, in which we exist.  The world is only an illusion created out of the consciousness. The consciousness appears as the diverse world If it really became diverse then the immortal would become mortal.

 The dualists who seek to prove the origination of the unborn, by that very enterprise try to make the immortal, mortal. Ultimate nature can never change - the immortal can never become mortal and vice versa. 

Sage Sri, Goudpada quotes from the Upanishads: ~ “There's no plurality here"; "The Soul through its powers appears to be many"; "those who are attached to  the creation or production or origination go to utter darkness"; "the unborn is never reborn, for what can produce it?".

Katha Upanishad:~  This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. (Katha Upanishad Ch-II -23-P-20)

Mundaka Upanishad: ~   This Atman cannot be attained through  the study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained. It is Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. (3 –page-70 Upanishads by Nikilanada)

The above passages further prove that: Self-knowledge cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas and intellectual understanding or by bookish knowledge.  Therefore, the Vedas and other scriptures are not the means to acquire the non-dual wisdom.  That is why Buddha rejected the scriptures, and even Sri, Sankara indicated that the truth lies beyond religion, the concept of god and scriptures.  

When Upanishads declare that: ~  This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books, then why  to compare Vedas with Bible or Koran or any other religious scriptures to realize the ultimate truth, which is beyond form, time and space. 
The religion was introduced in the past for the benefit of the populace   who are incapable to grasp the ultimate  truth.  Thus, religion is nothing to do with the pursuit of the  truth because the truth is not belief and religion is based on the belief.  
In theology, everyone is entitled to his own view, i.e. what he likes,  but in pursuit of truth this is not permissible.  That which dupes most of  the  people are taking satisfaction for truth. The seeker has to be aware of that which satisfies his   feelings.   "Felt" experience is no guide to the highest because one’s feeling may differ from others.  
The Truth must be independent of one’s Self; it is not to be what pleases him: all prejudices must go. Those who talk of "I feel so and so" provide psychological and not spiritualistic reasons.  Devotees seek to know God because they seek some benefit; seeker of truth seeks to know him in truth.   The Steadiness of mind depends upon what one is interested in. One’s mind can be steady only on what his mind is attached to.  

Things and problems concerning truth appear simple at first, and hence ordinary people speak presumptuously and glibly about it. But when one inquires he  finds how little he  know and that they are extraordinarily complex and he is  obliged to go deeper and deeper into them.
One   readily takes it for granted that both he and others knows what objects are or what the universe is because he has such immense conceit. Such an easy attitude arises because he does not know the complexity of these apparently simple matters, which in turn arises because of lack of inquiry and reasoning on the true base. 
A person with emotion who changes from one path or school of thought to another, he looks for novelties that appear charming to him.