Friday, March 22, 2013

Adyathmic Discussion --360

P: Because people think the body is born, lives and dies they feel the pleasure and pain as reality. But it is not body alone that dies, the world also dies together, because they appeared together and they disappear together as deep sleep or death.

So, as long as one is in the body one is bound by pleasure and pain.
Is there anyone who lives otherwise?

Warm regards..

Hi P,
The body,ego are within the world, the world is within the mind. The body and the world are reality within the waking experience.  The waking experience is unreal, and our individual experiences of birth, life and death are happening within waking or dream. When the mind is present then only the waking or dream is present. If mind is absent the waking or dream is absent. When the mind is absent it is deep sleep.  The witness of the three states is formless and real.

The truth is hidden within the mind, and no mind experiences. Deeper investigation will reveal the truth.

Waking entity (ego or form) with the name is not the author of the waking experience, because waking entity (ego or form) with the name exists within the waking experience. The waking experience is parallel dream, and the dream is a parallel waking experience. 
If I was Alexander the great in the dream and suffered pain in the dream, the pain of the dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. Similarly, my experience of pain and pleasure becomes unreal when wisdom dawns.  Within the illusion everyone is affected by pain and pleasure. Therefore, it is necessary for everyone to become consciously aware of the soul /consciousness themselves, and realize its effect themselves.  Since when one becomes soul centric any claim of authorship of any experience makes him egocentric. Whatever is based on Egocentricity is falsehood.    For a Gnani, nothing exists, nothing is ever exited, and nothing is going to exist, other than nothing, which is the soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, which is second to none.