Santthosh Kumaar I respect your views and wisdom. from standpoint of the birth entity whatever you experienced is true but from ultimate standpoint the duality is mere illusion. thus whatever seen,known, believed and experienced within the duality is bound to be falsehood because the duality is boud by form,time and space whereas the soul ,the innermost self is formless,timeless and space less existence.19 hours ago ·
Santthosh Kumaar
Sri Sankara and Maya or illusion
VlSHNUVARDHANA, the King of the Hoysalas, was a Vaishnavite and was greatly incensed at the doctrine taught by Sri, Sankara that everything here below is an illusion. He wanted to teach the exponent of this doctrine a lesson. So he invited the then Sri, Sankara to his palace. That holy man went there and stoutly maintained that everything in this world was illusion. The king had arranged to let loose an infuriated elephant against Sri, Sankara. The beast rushed at Sri, Sankara who took to a precipitate flight to save himself.
'Oh, Venerable Sir,' shouted the king, 'why do you run so fast seeing that the elephant is only an illusion?'
'Oh, king,' said Sri,Sankara in his course of his flight, 'my running too is an illusion. Everything in this world is an illusion.’
Similarly, the experiencing birth, life, death and the world are within the illusion. Due to ignorance the illusion is experienced as reality. The illusion is present in the form of ‘I’ or mind. Mind is present in the form of universe. Universe appears as waking or dream and disappears as deep sleep. The three states are one in essence and that essence is consciousness. The consciousness (soul) is the innermost self. On the standpoint of the innermost self the three states are illusory.
Thus experiencing the birth, life, death and the world within the illusion (waking or universe) with the illusory self (waking entity or ego), within the illusory experience (waking), has to be illusion.
The experience of birth, life, death and the world are mere illusion. The illusion is created, and sustained, and finally dissolves as consciousness, which is the innermost Self. Since, there is no second thing other than the consciousness (soul); the consciousness itself is ultimate truth or Brahman. The one who has realized this truth for him this illusion is passing show because he is fully aware of the fact that his body, his ego and his experience of the world to be consciousness. Practical peoples approach is more practical, and they are stuck with the reality of the practical life within the practical world, they take it as real whereas Gnani sees his body his ego and his experience of the world as consciousness. –FORMLESS PATH
Santthosh Kumaar Where is the experience and experiencer in reality . The experience and experiencer are one in essence. That essence is consciousness. There is no second thing exist other than the consciousness. Thus consciousness alone is real and all else is mere illusion created out of consciousness.
Santthosh Kumaar
When i ,you and others and the whole world with all its contents are one in essence. That essence is consciousness(soul), the innermost self . The innermost self is god. consciousness pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states thus consciousness(god) is not limited form,time and space. The discussion is reality within the illusion. If the same discussion was taken place within the dream , the dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place. Similarly we are discussing within the waking experience. The waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. wisdom dawns when the waking entity (YOU) realizes the self is neither the waking entity nor the self is dream entity but the self is formless witness(soul or consciousness) of the three states. the three states are one in essence.
Ashwani Kumar Dhir You mean in us resides the same consciousness then how come the difference in thinking we have? Does it not show we are different in thinking?
Santthosh Kumaar
If you ask the same question in dream the dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. in a dream you have met many people with diff rent thinking but the whole dream disappeared along with dream people and the dream world. The self remained without the waking body and waking world in deep sleep. thus one has to know what is it tat becomes the whole waking experience , what is it that becomes the whole dream experience and what is it that becomes deep sleep to unfold the mystery of the mind or universe and realize the fact that universe in which I and YOU and others exists is mere illusion. if universe is mere illusion than the birth,life,death which takes place within the universe is mere illusion.
