No
hooks to hang our hats on! As we move from i to I - even I Am
dissolves… there is just isness… no identity... not even I... as “I”
implies another/exists only in ref to someone something else other than I
- otherwise where the notion even of “I”? So its we “i’s” who
intellectually know about “I”ness, who refer to it as “I” .But as
That...it would not say “I”...surely...for where the notion of I when
there is no other!
We need to go beyond the need to call this state something…even the word ‘no-self’ becomes a sort of self as it gives form to the formless and description to the descirptionless! No hooks to hang your hats on!
Imho I AM is derived from AOM (OM) - The universal sound that emanates as unawareness becomes aware and revels in pure beingness – it’s the frequency of this state of pure beingness/awareness! And which we in duality have translated as I AM! But more accurately A-o-m is a state/ frequency/vibration of pure beingness. Meditatively: Aom = A(h)…. The wonder of awareness! O (oooo) the ensuing bliss/delight! M (mmm) resting in this state of being! A state of witnessing rather than there being a witness! “Events and deeds happening but no doer there of…” not even I…
(I have posted a longer posting on this meditative understanding of OM…many months ago on my fb wall…! will dig it out and repost it here for those who may resonate!)
We need to go beyond the need to call this state something…even the word ‘no-self’ becomes a sort of self as it gives form to the formless and description to the descirptionless! No hooks to hang your hats on!
Imho I AM is derived from AOM (OM) - The universal sound that emanates as unawareness becomes aware and revels in pure beingness – it’s the frequency of this state of pure beingness/awareness! And which we in duality have translated as I AM! But more accurately A-o-m is a state/ frequency/vibration of pure beingness. Meditatively: Aom = A(h)…. The wonder of awareness! O (oooo) the ensuing bliss/delight! M (mmm) resting in this state of being! A state of witnessing rather than there being a witness! “Events and deeds happening but no doer there of…” not even I…
(I have posted a longer posting on this meditative understanding of OM…many months ago on my fb wall…! will dig it out and repost it here for those who may resonate!)
May 3 · ·
Divyaa Kummar Photo shop is my new hobby...thus the image is part of that creativity...!May 3 at 8:07am · · 8 people
Santosh Bhalke beautiful; "He who thinks is the Doer is also the sufferor" - Shree Ramana Maharshi.
May 3 at 8:09am · · 2 people
Divyaa Kummar That"s why at a deeper glance...there is no suffering in the world...as there is no one to suffer!!
May 3 at 8:13am · · 7 people
Heena Nagda Absolutely Dee Lovely ...So Beautifullly expressed Thank you Dee..
May 3 at 9:33am · · 1 person
Samson Ezekiel Gr8 Divyaa :) you are obviously channeling continuously and bravo-- you are a perfect channel --- love and best wishes --capt ezekiel
May 3 at 10:49am · · 1 person
Divyaa Kummar Thanks and hi captain how are you! One can call it channeling...or just getting personal self out of the way...in that the cosmos flows through a 'me'...so no need to go into the trance or semi consciousness that often describes channeling...and thus a very conscious sharing occurs! Love dee
May 3 at 11:06am · · 3 people
Jayaa P Nairr Thanks for making it so simple for us to understand....to know is one thing but to know and understand is next level. ♥ ♥
May 3 at 11:27am · · 2 people
Divyaa Kummar
Thanks jaya and analogies work magic! In brief: Analogy uses real experiences and experience is diff from intellectual understanding: ..expereinces are already a path way grooved in the mind...something you hv walked down along.... thus whe...See More
May 3 at 11:51am · · 5 people
Nisarga Raman
Yes very true Divyaaji. Among all the Masters like Ramana, Nisargadatta Maharaj, Ranjit Maharaj, Osho, Ramesh Balsekar, Bagavath(live), Jaggi, Gurdjief, Allan Watts, Eckhart Tolle, Seth(you are channel), Richrds(of third alternative), Krish...See More
May 3 at 1:31pm · · 3 people
Shaila Doshi Love this image of You and all the Masters together ♥ ♥♥ ...am loving this series on " beyond the personal identities , the big leap " Thanks for aiding us to take that leap .
May 3 at 2:19pm · · 3 people
Heena Nagda Dee Thank you Soooooo much for wonderful Medi Today ...Thank you Thank you ...LOVE & PRANAM
May 3 at 7:29pm · · 2 people
Divyaa Kummar Thank you all so much for making these medit sesssions happen! love and pranam!
May 3 at 7:30pm · · 2 people
Shaila Doshi Am still mulling on the "working mind" and the "thinking mind" ...so much so much gyan today....♥
May 3 at 8:39pm ·
Ishvari Lockhart you are right, the sound of AUM, is all there is..it is Not though a meditation..its revelation in Devotion, would never be able to speak I AM...I AM, AUM...IS....Unimaginable Love Is ♥
May 3 at 9:56pm · · 3 people
Santthosh Kumaar
The word AUM has been chosen because it is a short easily remembered syllable. The separate sounds of the word are symbols, nothing more. The combination of these three letter sounds in the one word symbolizes the world's unity.
The three divisions of time--past present and future--are also symbolized. Moreover AUM contains three letters and Atman contains three states. Finally just as it requires four quarters to merge and make up a whole unity, so A, U, and M are three of these quarters.
A: When one think of himself as seeing the waking experience ; but when he thinks of the self apart from that self is Atman.
U: he regards his -self as being in the dream. This is a higher idea, because he knows that the universe is an object to the subject which is Ataman.
M: When one understands that through deep sleep he is able to measure all else, that all other things (and the sounds A and U symbolizing them) merge back into Deep sleep, are all found in it, and re-appear from it. This is a still higher degree.
Even if one takes any language he likes, he finds that A involves the opening of the mouth whereas M involves shutting it. Now all sound implies soundlessness, because it begins from that and ends with that. Hence the two always go together.
Similarly the knower and Known go together to form Brahman, are always present together although we do not usually recognize it. AUM= Turiya: This is not a state, as the ignorant Orthodoxy think.
This word includes all the three sounds, which have merged in it. So the waking merges in dream, the latter in sleep and all the three in AUM. The latter is a unity, nevertheless it contains a trinity. Thus when the word is made the subject of intelligent reflection, such meditation becomes a great help to attainment, as Advaitins says, for it thus becomes an examination of the whole of life.
Sounds imply names, names imply objects, objects imply whole world. "Au" is beginning of all sounds, "uM" is the end of all sounds, even other sound is included within them, i.e. within AUM.
Whatever may come in the future, whatever object existed in the past, whatever thing you can think of in the present--all these are included in the single word AUM, because all are named, hence are ideas, hence within the single mind.
The word is a mnemonic purposely invented to give men in one short syllable, in the smallest compass, a handy reminder that everything--this table, your neck-tie, that cow,--is of one and the same essential character. Every time any object is seen, you utter Aum and thus remember that it, and all other things, are the self. Every object in the external world is indicated by a name. Hence the phrase "the universe consists of names and forms.” All names are but words. As soon as a word is uttered, what does your mind do? A thought comes. Now all these words in every language, all these sounds, all these thoughts, are compressed in the one word Aum; which also enables all objects to be comprehended by the Mind as being ideas. Hence this word is unique. Nothing exists which is outside the scope of referential meaning AUM.
Aum therefore is the whole of existence, the universe. But why is this specific word Aum chosen for such high office? Take the first letter "AH". It is the sound phonetically uttered by the mouth when it first opens. "UM" is the sound it utters when at last it closes. Hence all sounds, without a single exception must becomprised between the opening and shutting of the lips, i.e. between "AH" and "UM" and as Brahman is silence, so ultimately the AUM disappears with the sounding of "UM" into silence, because the mouth must then shut. You have to use words to denote things, objects. You have to use letters to form words. The word AUM summarizes all other words. Finally even this word disappears when the sound of it goes. So the letting go of AUM is to make you drop the whole world and make you think of Brahman. Thus the mystery of AUM is wrapped in the meaning of words. Semantics aim at clarifying meanings but AUM ultimately shows you that all words are futile because they cannot express the ultimate nature of anything: Silence alone does this.
One cannot produce any sound without opening the mouth and the first sound he utters while opening the mouth is A. Thus A is said to pervade all sounds. A is considered to be the symbol of the universe because all objects are indicated by ideas, and all ideas are indicated by sounds and all sounds are pervaded by the letter A.
When we utter the word "sound" how can we understand the meaning of sound? It is only by distinguishing it from soundlessness that we can understand sound. All sounds are got from soundlessness. Similarly all the states are got from the Turiya, corresponding to soundlessness. We have to merge waking into dreams, then merge dream into deep sleep. And finally we have to merge even this into Turiya.
AUM is conceived as the whole universe, which has got four quarters. How can one know that the universe and the self-[soul] are identical? The answer is "Look into his -self--the Atman.” This Atman has also four corresponding quarters.
When one utter the word AUM, the waking comes before him: when he thinks of dream, the dream states come before him; and so also with sleep. Thus every time he utters the word AUM the three states come before him.
Meditation on symbols is meant for dull and mediocre intellects. When we utter the word AUM we must think of the three states and also of the Ataman.
Aum is a sound, how can it be an elephant? "All sounds" means all objects, or entire Brahman.
Anything which is a thought, is an idea, and hence a superimposition. Aum is the substratum of all the words. It is the word of Atman. Aum stands for the sound and not the letter which is found in all languages. It sums up all the sounds in all the languages. As upon the mind everything else is super-imposed, so upon the Aum everything else is superimposed.
The sound has for its substratum or substance one’s own self. It comes from and disappears into the self, which is Atman.
All this baggage is not necessary in pursuit of truth. Seeker has to find and realize “What is mind?” and “What is the substance of the Mind?” nothing else in order to unfold the mystery of the physical existence [universe]. The individual experiences happening within the universe, such as birth, life and death and pain and pleasure are nothing to do with the self, which is formless consciousness. Thus, it is necessary to know the self is formless to realize the fact that, the burden of the human is not on the body but it is on the Self [soul or consciousness], which the religionists call it as God/Brahman/ Christ/Buddha and intellectuals call it as Consciousness.
Thus consciousness alone is real. The human and universe is mere mirage created out of consciousness. Know the consciousness as true self then one becomes free from experiencing the mirage [birth, life, death and the universe] as reality.
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May 4 at 5:03am ·
Ishvari Lockhart Dear Santthosh...splendid Utterance of the Universe, not from our Lips..Self Alone IS .. AUM
May 4 at 5:08am · · 2 people
Aruna Radhakrishnan Dee-light-ful reading '“Events and deeds happening but no doer there of…” not even I…' What a wonderful state 2 b in ..oneness with all that is ...have just got a peep into the well of hidden nuances of what u have written and just loved it Will come back 4 more in tye hope that more will unfold on repeated readings Yr I Am = Aum resonates so well Thanks so much 4 explaining sch complex ideas so simply ♥
May 4 at 12:26pm · · 1 person
Aruna Radhakrishnan Is this the ' Beyond the personal identities ...the big leap ' Shaila was talking about If not please do add me also 2 it Thanks
May 4 at 12:30pm · · 1 person
Divyaa Kummar Dear aruna... if you are on my mailing list, you wld hv got the full transcribe -mail of 29.4.2011! Today i have mailed 2 more must read articles on the subject! The first arises from that transcript but is written in an article format rather than medit transcribe! the second is a related must read subject-arising from yesterdays medit!
May 4 at 3:18pm · · 3 people
Jim Connell "If I where to leave where would I go?" Ammachi " No One but you my Lord"
May 4 at 9:35pm · · 2 people
Cosmic Awakening Do you know something? Who is it that knows about something? You may think you know as this person of a flesh and bone form. But then why hasn"t science found this part of you who think it knows. Have you ever thought that you do not exist? No of course not, because that very thought is the person the moment of thought/ birth. Can you see this fact as witness, or Am I wasting your time ?
May 5 at 4:06am · · 4 people
Divyaa Kummar cosmic....there is nothing one can say in response ......not even not say something.....
May 5 at 7:40am · · 2 people
Aruna Radhakrishnan Dear Divyaa ...yes i have got all the three Thanks 4 responding Love u tons and tons
May 5 at 12:05pm ·
Santthosh Kumaar
Dear Divyaji, There is nothing as sacred of Self-Knowledge. Realization of self-drives way the ignorance.
Self-Awareness frees ‘Self’ from the burden and bondage of illusory duality. It is the self that is in illusion. When it becomes aware of its true nature the universe is mere mirage to the self which is formless and non-dual in its nature. Thus the thoughts and words are part of the illusory existence.
Many spiritual masters say that sticking to "I am" is way out from the physical shackles. But that"I" or "I am" itself creates the physical prison. The one, which expresses itself as 'I', is not 'I' but it is formless consciousness. Therefore the ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ is not the self. Considering the ‘I’ or ‘I AM as self is erroneous. The self, which is in the form of consciousness cannot be called anything nor approached because it is prior to anything that exists. When the consciousness is the substance of the whole universe and its contents thoughts and words and it is not a thing or entity or identity within the physical existence but it pervades the whole physical existence than it is erroneous to limit the ‘I’ to the physical entity alone.
one has to grasp mentally the existence of the formless witness.' I or 'I' am is mere expression.
The whole physical existence or universe is an expression. Thus physical existence or universe is mere illusion. The man and his experience of the world and his belief of god are within the illusory expression. The diversity is created out of single substance and knowing that single substance brings unity in diversity in consciousness.
Thus the universe [duality] is mere illusion. That is mind is an illusion. The one that has this illusion is the consciousness, which is the innermost self.
Therefore it is erroneous to seek truth on the base of 'I' because 'I' is not self. It very much necessary to rectify the seeking base by proper understanding of the fact that ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ is not the self before indulging in the pursuit of truth.
As long as a person has a firm conviction that 'I' is self, he will not be able to understand ,assimilate and realize the non-dual truth, Because whatever knowledge one assimilate he assimilates as a person, which adds to his existing accumulated information. Therefore, seeker has to discover the fact that 'I' is not the self but 'I' is the whole universe, which appears in the form of mind. Universe is mere mirage. The duality is experienced only when the universe is present. Thus universe is duality. Consciousness is formless substance and witness of the universe. Thus consciousness is the true self and cause of the universe but it itself is uncaused because no second thing exist other than it.
It is necessary to have firm conviction 'I' is not self but the formless consciousness is the true self. To understand, assimilate and realize the non-dual truth.«smile»
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May 9 at 2:32pm ·
Cosmic Awakening I feel that when Ramana refers to the I thought, the he is meaning the Me or person thought consciousness. The I Am consciousness is non personal or nothing, silence, essence. The Jesus I Am who I Am Christ consciousness. Well that is my humle little me oppinion and you are going to get many more of them until I awaken to silence.
May 10 at 1:22am ·
Santthosh Kumaar
“Self is not “I”. To know the ultimate truth of one’s Self as the sole Reality, and to merge and become one with it, is the only true realization.
Just realize the Self, is not” I” but self is the formless substance and witness of the “I”, which is mere illusion. Because people want something elaborate and mysterious, so many belief systems have come into existence. Only those who are mature can understand the matter in its naked simplicity.
The ultimate truth is so simple; it is nothing more than being in natural, original state of the self, which is the soul. The soul is in the form of consciousness.
When one realizes the body is not the self, the soul is the true self, and then he realizes the experience of his body and the experience of world are mere illusion created out of the soul, which is in the form of consciousness. Therefore, there is only oneness, there is no second thing exists other than consciousness in the realm of the true self. By realizing the true self is not “I” one becomes free from experiencing the duality as reality.
Realization comes only when one realizes the self is not the body or ego, but the self is consciousness, and it pervades all the three states as their formless substance and witness.
One should not look for truth within the religion. The truth is beyond religion because the religion is based on the ignorance. Ignorance exist because of one thinks the false self [I] as true self and false experience [world] as reality.
There is no permanent peace in the duality; there is eternal peace only in the non-duality. Nothing can satisfy one but reunion with his real Self by realizing the fact that, the self is not form but self is formless.«smile»
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