Adyatmic discussion- 62

 

Discussion

Q:-

No two human-body are same and all human body are similar. Path of reason may not be obvious to many but it does not mean that s/he cannot proceed to God...


To use a gadget efficiently one need not to know the entire technology behind, user manual is sufficient. And the technical knowledge about the gadget cannot produce the gadget unless we convert that knowledge in physical device, the gadget.

Everything may be illusion for one person may not be for other. However when one moves toward God everything can be experienced as a play within

SK:- As per my conviction derived from deeper self-search:-   

Path of reason is the easiest   though people feel it is difficult, because their reason is based on the ego. The one which reasons good and bad in physical realm, the same reasoning faculty will reason what is truth and what is untruth and will be able discard the untruth mentally, when the reasoning base is rectified from form to formless base.  It takes time to rectify the reasoning base from to formless.  The wisdom dawns only when one is able to view, judge and reason from ultimate [formless soul] point of view.  But any serious seeker can achieve this, if he has intense urge to know the truth.   If the reasoning base is rectified the truth will start revealing on its own, without the grace of any physical gurus grace or blessings.   

When one is not aware of the stuff from the physical device is made of, how he can know the higher truth without knowing how the physical devise and the universe came into existence.  Therefore there is a need to know one’s own existence and to know and realize even others existence in this unreal universe is mere mirage created out consciousness. 

It is only because of inherited conditioning people are not ready to verify the fact of their own existence because they have accepted the birth, life and death which takes place in the unreal world as reality. Therefore there is a need to know how the universe is unreal and on what standpoint it is illusion to realize the fact that I, you and others are part of the illusion. 

Only deeper self-search will lead one towards non dual destination.      

   

RE: FROM M:- I respect your learning and Intellectual thoughts. Thanks for reply to my question but still I am not convinced that without meditation you can reach the ultimate. I am a follower of Swami Vivekananda, have you read his lecturers and writings? People need not be intellectual geniuses to know the truth. How come saints like Kabir and Rama Krishna Paramahamsa reach God or truth without book learning. Karma theory and soul explains everything.

Dear M,

I respect your views.  

There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth:
not going all the way... and not starting.

— Buddha
When the reality appears this ignorance
which one thinks as reality becomes unreal.
— MEHER BABA

As per Upanishads This Atman cannot be attained through study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained. It is Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature.  

I am glad you are follower of Swami Vivekananda.  Every ones inner work takes him to his destination. As the spiritual maturity grows one will be able to drop what is not needed in pursuit of truth. Ineer guidance will come on its own if the seeker is seriously seekeing truth nothing but truth.   Even your guru Vivekananda was enlightened by reading Astavakra Gita.  In that same book it is mentioned: -   this indeed your bondage that you practice Samadhi.  

Sankara definitely says that Yoga is not the means of liberation [page 132-133 of his commentary on Brihadaranyakopanishad].

Thus do not think it is my intellectual thoughts the master and scriptures are saying so.

 Ramakrishna Paramhansa and Swami Vivekananda First Meeting

When Vivekananda came to Ramakrishna his name was still Narendranath -- later on Ramakrishna named him Vivekananda. When he came to Ramakrishna he was extremely argumentative, an atheist, a rationalist. He wanted proof for everything.  There are some things that have no proof -- it cannot be helped. There is no proof for godliness: it is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for love. It is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for beauty. It is, and yet there is no proof. 

 If I say, "Look how beautiful these ironwood trees are," and you say, "I don't see any beauty -- Trees are just trees. Prove it!," it will be difficult. How can one prove they are beautiful? To be beautiful you need a sense of beauty -- there is no other way. You need eyes -- there is no other way. It is reported that Majnu said, "To know Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu." It is true; to see Laila there is no other way.  The king of his area called Majnu and said. "You are mad! I know your Laila -- an ordinary girl, jet black -- nothing special. 

I feel sorry for you, so here are twelve girls from my palace -- they are the most beautiful women of the country. You can chose any one you like. Seeing you cry, my heart also cries. "  Majnu looked at them and said, "There is no Laila among them. They cannot even be compared to Laila, they are not even worth the dust of her feet."  The king said, "Majnu, you are mad...!"  Majnu said, "That may be so, but I must tell you one thing: to see Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu."  Majnu is right. To see the beauty of trees you need an eye for art -- there is no other proof. 

If one wants to know love, one will need the heart of a lover -- there is no other proof. And godliness is the collective name of all the beauty, all the love and all the truth of this universe. For it an unwavering consciousness is needed, a witnessing is needed... where no word remains, no thought remains, no wave arises... where no mental dust remains and the mirror of consciousness is perfectly pure. What proof?  Vivekananda told Ramakrishna, "I want proof. If God exists then prove it!" 

 Ramakrishna looked at Vivekananda. This youth had great promise, great potential; much was ready to happen within him. There was a great treasure with which Vivekananda was unacquainted. Ramakrishna looked into, peered into, the past lives of this youth. Vivekananda had come carrying a great treasure, a great treasure of integrity, but it was suppressed under his logic. Seeing this, a cry of anguish and compassion must have risen from Ramakrishna's heart. He said, "Forget all this. We'll talk about proof and such things later on. I have become a little old, I have difficulty reading; you are young, you eyes are still strong -- read from the book lying there."

It was the Ashtavakra Gita. "Read a little out loud to me."  It is said that Vivekananda saw nothing wrong in this, this fellow was not requesting anything special. He read three or four sutras and every cell began trembling. He started to panic and he said, "I cannot read on."  Ramakrishna insisted, " Go ahead and read. What harm can there be in it? How can this book hurt you? You are young, your eyes are still fresh, and I am old, it is hard for me to read. I must hear this book -- read it out to me." 

 It is said that Vivekananda kept on reading aloud from the book -- and disappeared in meditation. Ramakrishna had seen great potential in this youth, a very promising potential, like that of a bodhisattva who one day or other is destined to become a buddha. Sooner or later, no matter how much he wanders, he is approaching buddhahood. When Vivekananda came to Ramakrishna his name was still Narendranath -- later on Ramakrishna named him Vivekananda. When he came to Ramakrishna he was extremely argumentative, an atheist, a rationalist. 

He wanted proof for everything.  There are some things that have no proof -- it cannot be helped. There is no proof for godliness: it is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for love. It is, and yet there is no proof. There is no proof for beauty. It is, and yet there is no proof.  If I say, "Look how beautiful these ironwood trees are," and you say, "I don't see any beauty -- Trees are just trees. Prove it!," it will be difficult. How can one prove they are beautiful? To be beautiful you need a sense of beauty -- there is no other way. You need eyes -- there is no other way. 

It is reported that Majnu said, "To know Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu." It is true; to see Laila there is no other way.  The king of his area called Majnu and said. "You are mad! I know your Laila -- an ordinary girl, jet black -- nothing special. I feel sorry for you, so here are twelve girls from my palace -- they are the most beautiful women of the country. You can chose any one you like. Seeing you cry, my heart also cries. "  Majnu looked at them and said, "There is no Laila among them. They cannot even be compared to Laila, they are not even worth the dust of her feet."  

The king said, "Majnu, you are mad...!"  Majnu said, "That may be so, but I must tell you one thing: to see Laila you will need the eyes of Majnu."  Majnu is right. To see the beauty of trees you need an eye for art -- there is no other proof. If one wants to know love, one will need the heart of a lover -- there is no other proof. And godliness is the collective name of all the beauty, all the love and all the truth of this universe. For it an unwavering consciousness is needed, a witnessing is needed... where no word remains, no thought remains, no wave arises... where no mental dust remains and the mirror of consciousness is perfectly pure. What proof?  

Vivekananda told Ramakrishna, "I want proof. If God exists then prove it!"  Ramakrishna looked at Vivekananda. This youth had great promise, great potential; much was ready to happen within him. There was a great treasure with which Vivekananda was unacquainted. Ramakrishna looked into, peered into, the past lives of this youth. Vivekananda had come carrying a great treasure, a great treasure of integrity, but it was suppressed under his logic. Seeing this, a cry of anguish and compassion must have risen from Ramakrishna's heart. 

He said, "Forget all this. We'll talk about proof and such things later on. I have become a little old, I have difficulty reading; you are young, you eyes are still strong -- read from the book lying there." It was the Ashtavakra Gita. "Read a little out loud to me."  It is said that Vivekananda saw nothing wrong in this, this fellow was not requesting anything special. He read three or four sutras and every cell began trembling. He started to panic and he said, "I cannot read on."  Ramakrishna insisted, “Go ahead and read. 

What harm can there be in it? How can this book hurt you? You are young, your eyes are still fresh, and I am old, it is hard for me to read. I must hear this book -- read it out to me."  It is said that Vivekananda kept on reading aloud from the book -- and disappeared in meditation. Ramakrishna had seen great potential in this youth, a very promising potential, like that of a bodhisattva who one day or other is destined to become a Buddha. Sooner or later, no matter how much he wanders, he is approaching Buddhahood.  [Source :- OSHO'S MAHA GITA]

A man may speak the truth that he saw god in his vision. But whether what he saw in vision is really God because vision itself is as real as dream.

It is not the worship of a person that is crucial, but the steadiness and depth of his devotion urge to know the truth. True Self itself is the Supreme Guru; seeker of truth has to be attentive to grasp the truth. The outer Guru is part of the illusion; when one is able to grasp the truth directly, he will realize the fact that, the Guru is within and the guidance will come as one starts inquiring, analyzing and reasoning.  There is no need to blindly believe and follow anyone. Every claim has to be verified then only accept if it is found to be truth without any contradiction. If anything can be contradicted then it is not the truth. The ultimate truth is un-contradictable.  

People who believe in idea of God are not aware of the fact that, the belief system is hindrance in pursuit of truth. They are unaware of the fact that their god is mere belief installed and groomed by their parents. God exits for those who  believes in their inherited  belief.   How do they know there is God? They believe in existence of God without verifying their belief. Deeper inquiry reveals the fact that, the ‘I’ is not the true self but the soul/spirit is the true self.  Therefore, whatever one knows, seen, believed and experienced on the base of ‘I’ as self is bound to be falsehood.  Thus, their belief of god is based on the ‘I’, which is the false self, within the false experience. In assuming God’s existence they merely guess and imagine without facts.  

One must make an effort to know the ultimate truth. The truth exists eternally.  There is nothing new to be acquired, only one has to have the sharp brain to grasp, understand, assimilate and realize it.

There is a difference between understanding and realization. Effort is required for this understanding only, whereas once understood no special effort is needed to remember his understanding: until then he only has an idea of the true “Self”, he only partially understand it. But once he thoroughly grasps what it is and that all these three states are mirage created out of the true  “Self”  , he will then constantly find its present everywhere without further effort, because he will perceive ultimate truth  by understanding, even in the midst of worldly existence.

When there is only one thing the Self /Spirit  knower, there is nothing to change, nothing to appear or disappear; when one speaks of remembering or forgetting “Self” that implies he  believes in the existence of something else, i.e. a second thing, which is to be remembered. That would show he has not known that all is one. But knowing it, there is no second, consequently no intermittent perception of Self/Soul, but a permanent effortless understanding that it alone is.

When one gets a glimpse of truth try to reflect on it a number of times in order to establish it. "The self must raise itself by the Self." One cannot know the truth until one knows stuff which created the waking/dream. The goal of pursuit of truth is to realize the nature of the true self. 

A man may speak the truth that he saw god in his vision.  But whether what he saw in
vision is really God because vision itself is as real as dream. 

Even if one agrees the fact that he saw a vision but the one that witnesses the vision is not physical.  The one which witnesses the waking and dream or vision is not physical. Therefore, there is a need to know the formless witness, which witnessed the waking, or dream or vision to unfold the mystery and realize the fact that, the waking experience itself is the mirage. Therefore, whatever one knows of the dream or vision in the waking experience is bound to be falsehood, and the witness of the waking experience is real and eternal.  

Those who understand this see through the form, time and space, and go beyond the various sheaths of being to realize the unity of life.

Only real knowledge is self –knowledge. The self is in the form of consciousness dwells in everything and everywhere in all the three states.

There are only two mistakes one can make along the road to truth:

 not going all the way... and not starting.

— Buddha

One has to be soul-centric to grasp and understand, assimilate and realize the non-dual truth.  Those whose consciousness is unified abandons all attachment to the results of action and conducts and attains non-dual peace. But those whose desires are fragmented, who are selfishly attached to the results of their work and conducts, are bound in everything they do and remain egocentric. Egocentricity is the cause of experiencing the duality as reality.  Experiencing duality as reality, is accepting the birth, life, death and the universe as reality.

The nature of truth is to be free from contradictions. As one approaches nearer and nearer truth as he finds less and less contradictions. The only thing which is so free is non-duality'. 'This may be achieved at first, in lightning flashes, in fleeting momentary glimpses, but later this must be established into permanency. One should stabilize them through constant reflecting on the nature of the true self, and through the constant reminder that the mind [universe] is not separate from consciousness, which is the true self.

The same word, used in similar contexts, cannot carry different meanings with different persons. When one says ‘I’ meaning ‘as his body’, another understands it in the same sense, meaning ‘his body’. But when the other person uses the same word ‘I’, he means ‘his body’, which is entirely different from ‘his body’. But this ‘I’ is not all these. This ‘I’ is the mind, which appears and disappears as whole waking or dream experience. When the ‘I,’ appears the mind appears, when ‘I’ disappears the mind disappears. Therefore, ‘I’ is mind.   When the mind [I] is there then there is waking or dream. Absent of mind is absent of waking or dream. Thus, mind has to be considered as the whole waking or dream experience. 

Thus, in the case of everyone, the bodies meant are different; but the word used is the same ‘I’, always. So the ‘I’ must mean: either the individual body or it must evidently the mind, which is in the form of whole universe.

The latter being the only possible alternative, the ‘I’ must necessarily mean that the universe, which contains everyone and everything and which appears and disappears as mind. This is the real meaning of ‘I’.

The true self which is consciousness is not comprehensible because it is the invisible substance and witness of the mind. Until and unless seeking mind inquires and reasons and becomes aware of its formless substance and lifting itself above the experience of duality[waking or dream], the duality will prevail as reality.

Focusing one’s attention mentally from the universe towards its   source and realizing the fact that, the formless source itself is the true self and the mind /universe is dependent on the consciousness for its existence.  The consciousness can exist with or without the mind or universe. [Illustration: deep sleep] there is no second thing other than consciousness because the whole universe is created out of consciousness.

Truth will be revealed only when the seeking mind learns to view and judge the worldview on the base of the consciousness as self. One has to realize the fact that the 'I' is not the self but the formless consciousness is the true self. The consciousness is the formless substance and witness of the universe or mind. It is erroneous to pass a judgment, on the base of the false self or with existing inherited or accumulated knowledge based on the false self.

The past, present and future are within the experience of duality. It is erroneous to seek truth on the base physical entity which is bound by form, time and space. Therefore it is necessary to find the substance from which the mind rises and subsides.

The individual experience of life is nothing to with truth. On the realm of truth, the birth, life, death and universe or   form, time and space or past present and future are mere mirage.

He who knows the 'thoughts and words as the consciousness, he is the knower of ultimate truth. One, who has realized the nondual Truth, has entered into the realm of consciousness, by burning away the accumulated egocentric dross, which was cause of the ignorance, and hence he is free from experiencing the illusion as reality.  In the realm of truth   consciousness has no seed of ignorance for illusion.  For when mirage is  superimposed on consciousness  has merged in the consciousness  on the discrimination of the real  and the unreal , it does not appear again as real  to those discriminating people, just as before, from the impressions of past persisting in the intellect.

The Self in man, creatures and in the sun moon star are one because everything is created out of single stuff, which is consciousness. 

Those who understand this see through the form, time and space, and go beyond the various sheaths of being to realize the unity of life.

Soul is the Source

When one is searching for truth he is not aware of the fact that, he is searching for the truth within the false experience with his the false identity.  There is no me or you or us, no seeker, no enlightenment, no disciple and no guru, no teaching, when one becomes aware of the fact that the true self is not ‘i’ but the soul or spirit or consciousness  . There is no birth, life and death, no purpose of life, and nothing that has to be achieved when one realizes and becomes aware of the fact that, his physical identity and its experience of the world are mere illusion.

All that appeared as three states/illusion is the soul/consciousness. Soul is the source. All that apparently manifests in the illusion creates ignorance and ignorance creates separation – man and his the world, his belief of god, the search for truth is part of the illusion. The ignorance makes one appearing as two. Absent of ignorance absent of duality. Whatever prevails without duality is non dual reality.

All past, present and future are reality in ignorance. Absent of ignorance absent of diversity/illusion. The wisdom brings unity in diversity. Destiny is part of the illusion, because birth, life and death itself is illusion.

 All the happenings are part of the illusion.  Seeker has to discover the source.  The source is the soul/spirit which is uncaused, unchanging, formless and non-dual.

Non dual truth is reasoned proved truth; mysticism relies on personal experience as truth; scholasticism takes private interpretation as truth.   Pursuit of truth aims at the unification of the whole experience of diversity. Scholasticism is an excellent exercise for the mind but not as a means to truth. 

Pursuit of truth is the opposite of Yoga, because it is mental  exercise his mind and get at non dual truth by discrimination.  People are interpreting scriptures, faiths etc. by reason, more or less imperfect but emotionally are attached to the scriptures, and they get upset if anyone say anything about their scriptures. Such mind-sets are still in primitive stage, it takes a long time for them to understand the scriptures are not the means for self-realization.  

The fullness of reason is the only final arbiter one possesses.  "What is truth?" is the question he must put first. Hence definitions are essential because it carries different meanings to different minds.  The mystic truth is individual truth not universal.  Non dual wisdom is higher than mysticism. 

Scriptures are the experience only of the few; hence it is only individualized truth. Reason and universal experience must take precedence over it and over hearsay in the quest of ultimate truth regarding the three states. No scripture can help in pursuit of truth. One’s mind will be prejudiced by this man's or that man's view. 

There are unfortunately so many different kinds of Yoga. But no yogi uses reason based on the soul.  Yoga means killing reason, thus it is no use in to acquire non dual wisdom. Yoga is good as a preparation only.

 Many People want to take as less trouble as possible and gain as much as possible. They disdain the hard labour of thinking needed in pursuit of truth and hope to get truth by doing nothing i.e. merely believing or refraining from thought in yoga. 

 Conversion can occur only in the sphere of religion, never in pursuit of truth. When one knows non dual truth, he becomes free from sphere of imagination. 

If one’s reason is not sharp enough, then only religion and yoga can satisfy him. The seeker of truth examines both scientific and religious doctrines and discoveries and to evaluate them.  

"All men are mortal" because they exist within the illusion [waking/dream]. One sees all men and the universe within the waking/dream.  If there is no waking/dream then there are no men and the universe. Man exists within the waking /dream and imagines on the base of physical entity/ego which is limited only to waking experience. 

 As logic is built upon more imagination, as assumptions, therefore it is no path to non-dual truth. It is like religion and mysticism. One postulate certain things and show they agree with others that he has already taken for granted. This is called the "coherence" theory of truth. But it is fallible.

When one trying to get rid of thinking in yoga he cannot get any truth. Thinking is a main tool in pursuit of truth. When anyone avoids thinking, runs after religion and yoga, he may be sure that they do not want to be troubled by effort to think.

Science stops in midway, if went to the very root; it would get non dual Truth. All this science helps to make the reason clear, sharpens the mind, but it will take centuries for them to go to the very root.  

 Theology is based on imagination; scholasticism upon logic.  The non-dual truth can be got only inquiry analysis and reasoning on the true base and not by millions of karmas /actions as scriptures declare. Since man, world and universe is part and parcel of the illusion. Therefore, the karma based on the false self within the false experience is no use.  It is unfortunate that people agree the body is not the self, but they refuse to accept the fact that the karma theory is based on false self [I] since they are still slaves of their conditionings.

In  Isa Upanishad says:-

MANTRA 10

 Avidya is Karama and therefore a hindrance. You perform Avidya - i.e., you perform Agnihotra and other sacrifices. This is a roundabout way of purifying the mind, and it is also groping in the dark. But it may not have as heavy a toll on your time and energy as the other.

Since ignorance is karma. And karma is possible only in ignorance.  Therefore, the three states are reality only on the base of false self.  Thus, whatever actions and conducts performed on the base of false self, with in the false experience, is bound to be false-hood. Thus the karma theory based on the false self has to be false theory. One must deal only with the facts of experience, not of imagination. 

The one which wakes up dreams and sleeps is not the soul/self. The one which is aware of the waking/dream and deep sleep is the true self, which is in the form of consciousness. Thus the waking/dream and deep sleep is mere mirage on the standpoint of the soul, which is aware.  The soul/Christ is ever aware and is aware of the three states [illusion] which comes and goes in succession.

 The waking or dreams are unreal on the base the soul/Christ/Brahman. The reality wills not the reveal until one becomes aware mentally of the formless witness and substance of the three states. Therefore, the practices and theories based on the physical self/ego are not the means to self-knowledge. If the meditater thinks he is the doer of the meditation and takes the authorship of meditation then it is not meditation.

 The body is not the doer. The body is mere an experience within the experience. The one which knows itself as body and perceives the world is not the body, but the soul. Without the soul the experience of diversity [waking/dream] is non existent. The soul, which is the true self can exist with or without the experience of diversity [waking/dream], the illustration is deep sleep. [In deep sleep the soul witnesses its formless non-dual true nature.]

  Thus consciously being aware of the self is soul in the midst of experience of diversity/waking will lead to non-dual/ meditative awareness of the soul in the midst of duality.   Thus all meditation practiced on the false self /ego is preparatory practices to reach the ultimate state, which is frees one from experiencing the duality [birth, life and death] as reality.  The formless substance and witness of the three states is not physical but the Spirit/Christ/Brahman.   

Thus seeker of the truth has to verify the fact that whether his practice of meditation is based on the physical self/ego  or through deeper inquiry, analysis and reasoning.  This is possible only when one feels, his present practice of meditation is inadequate and useless.  This feeling comes only after years and years of meditation practice.

 

The idea of religion and religious identity is based on the false physical identity

The idea of religion and religious identity is based on the false physical identity or waking entity or ego and false experience. Focusing or diverting attention from the world to a thing  or belief will lead one to hallucination.  Without realizing the true self is soul, all types meditation keeps one in the grip of duality.

 The people, who practice meditation, are unaware of the fact that, the true self is not physical, but the formless soul, which is in the form of consciousness. When they consider themselves Hindu, Christian or Buddhist or think their meditation as a way to enhance their religious faith are unaware of the fact that, their physical identity is the false self within the false experience.  Thus, any type of paths and practices, which are based on the false self (‘ego or waking entity’) will not yield any fruits  

The great learned of scriptures who made big volumes, and delivered long lectures on the nature and workings of Gods and God, indulge in mere exuberance of words, in which they are lost. The more they argue and discuss, the most they attain is merely another thought which never cross the field of duality. 

If one shows the proof of un-contradictable truth, one can accept," and if one do not give proof, then he do not know and hence say nothing. 

The intellectuals will go on endlessly arguing. The way out is not through mysticism, which is merely mind-exhaustion, but through the fuller use of reason.  

Science is truer than religion. Therefore it is gradually replacing religion. But self-knowledge is truer than science, and will replace it eventually. 

Self-knowledge means fact, verified, proof of one’s true existence.  Truth is that on which no two persons can disagree, in which there can be no contradiction, no difference and no doubts.

 Science create smart weapons  and  bombs drop and destruct  and  wake up those who are asleep in religion or false belief, or who refuse to think and seek truth. Nature, God, Karma are behind this universal whipping. 

One cannot say human reason can know ultimate truth, but only that human reason based on the soul as self can know there is an ultimate truth, that it is. 

Physical laws are after all only one’s idea of things. The only real way to know these things is to become them. Hence scientific laws do not explain, they merely describe. 

Correspondence Theory of Truth: All the objects one sees within the waking/dream are only mirage on the base of soul as self, because they are reality only on the base of false self (‘ego or waking entity’). Therefore the Correspondence Theory is fallacious because one can only check one idea by another idea, not with any reality.

Logical necessity merely means that if one assumes the premise of causation, for instance, certain consequences will logically follow. Logic deals with causes whereas Reason based on the soul as self, deals with distinguishing between truth and falsehood.  Reason is that which distinguishes truth from falsehood.

Formless path is for understanding the Self and the world in a different way

Seeker of truth has to understand, assimilate and constantly reflect on fact that, the soul is the true self. However, "believing in" doctrines about non dualism is not the point of formless path.

Formless path is for understanding the Self and the world in a different way. Scriptures are not meant to be accepted on blind faith. The seeker of truth should not be idolatrous about or bound to any scriptures, theory, or ideology. Formless path is the guiding means; one finds the absolute truth" when he verifies through deeper inquiry, analysis and reasoning on the base of the soul as self. 

The absolute truth cannot be contained in words and concepts. Thus, merely believing in words and concepts is not the formless path. There is no point in believing in reincarnation/rebirth, for example. Rather, one has to  indulge in deeper inquiry, analysis and reasoning on the base of the soul, which is the true self, in order to realize a self not subject to birth, life and death.

To say that doctrines and teachings shouldn't be accepted on blind faith. They are important for religionists. Formless path is like maps to follow on a spiritual journey, or a boat to carry the seekers across a river. Meditation or mantra or rituals and prayers are pointless in pursuit of truth. But for the beginners in pursuit of truth they have a real impact on their life and outlook.

Pursuit of truth is not to accept any belief blindly without verification.  Over the centuries religionists have developed diverse schools with distinctive, and sometimes contradictory, doctrines. Often one might read that "one school of thought believe" such and such a thing, when in fact that doctrine belongs only to one school and not to all of other schools of thought.

To compound confusion further, throughout world  one can find a kind of folk Belief system  in which the Sage,Saints, God men  and other iconic characters from religious literature are believed to be divine beings who can hear prayers and grant wishes. Clearly, most people are with beliefs. Focusing on those beliefs will teach them little about the ultimate truth, however.

If one wants to know and assimilate the ultimate truth, he has to put aside all assumptions. Put aside assumptions about belief system, and then assumptions about religion. Put aside assumptions about the nature of the self, of reality, of existence. Keep himself open to new understanding. Whatever beliefs he holds, hold in an open mind and not with preconceived ideas, and see where it takes him.

Verification is essential to in pursuit of truth, but not required by religion.  Science seeks simpler explanations but in pursuit of truth everything is simplifies most when it reduces everything to Mind, and mind to Atman.  

A truth is verifiable in science if it can be tested and in logic if it can be proved.  The weakness of science is that it has no idea, no definition of truth. 

The facts upon which science must be based are the individual things and events which are found to occur. Science coordinates them by generalizing their significance into a hypothesis. The latter is then tested and verified. In pursuit of truth examines the hypothesis from the point of view of its ultimate truth. No human being can possibly study all available facts and sciences. Hence one has to take their generalizations, i.e. hypothesis based on facts.  

Truth seekers need not learn modern science in order to acquire Self-Knowledge. Science helps us to ascertain truth of the things within the illusion. The science cannot go beyond the limits of physicality because beyond physicality has to be grasped mentally.  Science is needed us to teach us precision, exactness and reliance on fact.  The mind has to pass through various stages of growth as it progresses through disillusionment, enquiry, quest of truth, etc. to reason.

It is to find out the contradictions inherent in all discussion! To show that duality cannot yield truth. To prove that words and thoughts can yield only duality, never the true self. Non dual truth is not with personal interpretations or with views, but with facts.  

Unless a fact is ascertained and verified, it has no place in pursuit of truth. The religion is based on speculation and imagination, and mere logic regardless of fact, but in pursuit of truth it must be based on facts. 

If science pursues its researches and does not stop, if it seeks constantly also to ascertain truth, it will be led into mental journey through inquiry, analysis and reasoning on the true base  because there is nowhere else for it to go. Modern Science does not travel to ultimate and universal questions. It provides the ascertained facts, however, for dealing with those questions. 

  The distance from Mumbai to Boston in one’s dream journey is only mental, within the mind. Similarly in the waking experience the same distance is also mental.  The sense of form, time space is reality within the waking/dream. 

Reason works upwards from lower to higher certainties in the practical world, mathematics being the highest of these stages but still does not reach the realm of non-duality.  Reason based on the soul as self becomes consciousness  when it is by itself, chained to no other thoughts: when it to so chained, then it is reason. 

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The intense concentration required to grasp the non-dual truth is so fine and "sharp as the razor's edge

For the soul, which is the true self, there is neither birth nor death. Nor having once been, does it ever cease to be. It is unborn and eternal, ever existing, undying and primeval. It is does not die when the body and the world dies.  

Constant mental effort through reflecting on the nature of the true self /soul leads towards spiritual awareness. Those who follow formless path, resolving deep within themselves to seek Atman/true self alone, attain singleness of purpose. For those who lack resolution, the decisions of life are many-branched and endless.

The intense concentration required to grasp the non-dual truth is so fine and "sharp as the razor's edge. He must be able to keep all other thoughts away in order to perceive the Non-dual truth.  One has to be able to rise above emotions if he wants to find truth. It is emotion which leads to religion and mysticism.  

The proper qualifications must be possessed by the seeker; otherwise he will not meet with success. He must be bent on truth, knowledge, the removal of ignorance rather than peace only, for instance, and if he dogmatizes then truth is unattainable, he is also unqualified, and if he is merely curious he is unfit. 

The qualifications required of the seeker are discrimination between real and unreal: this is the faculty of reason based on the soul as self, which discriminates truth from falsehood. Reason is not intellect, which is based on the ‘I’ the physical self. Inquiry means enquiry into the reason of everything.  

Calmness of mind, freedom from worries and yogic peace, are qualities of greatest help in quest of truth. But yogic calmness alone does not directly yield knowledge: it is not the end; the seeker must make use of his brains also.  

The personal qualifications of an aspirant must be supplemented by this perfect guidance, (b) study of F.P Blogs (c) leisure to carry on these studies and to think about consciousness [soul] as self.  

 Intellectuals must give up their conceit and vanity and seek Truth.  Seeker of truth has to pursue spiritualistic based on the soul as self and inquiry to the logical end, whether it yields satisfaction or not.  At one stage of the quest of truth seeker should not give it up half-way. 

There can be no understanding of truth unless he is determined wholeheartedly to get at it.

Seeker of truth only wants one theory. That is, what is the meaning of the all the three states, which appear and disappear in succession, the truth regarding life and existence? He wants to know the truth eternal, because everything else is perishable including man and his universe. Therefore one has to think calmly and consider what it is that he wants from life. 

Yoga is intended to remove conflicts which exist, out of the mind and to keep out conflicts, doubts and passions. It means keeping the mind always calm and alert. Yoga is a psychological training which helps the beginners in path of inquiry. 

Benefit of yoga is to give freedom of mind from worries, anxiety and troubles so that in short, to give the mind peace, so that it may pursue the higher quest undisturbed and able understands and assimilate the non-dual truth.