Adyathmic discussion- 351

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• John LeKay The greatest obstacle in the path of surrender is egoism (ahamkaram) and Attachment or Possessiveness (mamakaram). This is ingrained in your personality since ages and its tentacles go deeper and deeper with the experience of every succeeding life. It can be removed only by the twin detergents of discrimination and ren...unciation. Devotion is the water to wash away this dirt of ages, and the soap of japam, dhyaanam and yoga (repetition of God's name, meditation and communion) will help to remove it quicker and more effectively. Slow and steady progress will surely win the race in this one; quicker means of travel can spell disaster. Proceed step by step in your spiritual practices - placing one steady step before you take the next. Do not waver or slide back two paces with one step forward. Cultivate deep faith - that will make your progress steady! -- Baba

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  Santthosh Kumaar Ignorance is the greatest obstacle in the pursuit of truth. 
  
  

  
  

  The dream ego, dream body and the dream world are reality within the dream but the dream is considered as falsehood when waking takes place. Similarly the waking ego, waking body and waking world are reality within the waking experience but the waking experience also becomes falsehood when wisdom dawns. 
  
  

  Wisdom dawns when the waking entity realizes it itself is not the self in the midst of waking experience. 

  Waking experience is state of ignorance. In the state ignorance one remains experiencing illusion as reality. Till illusion remains a reality, he will remain ignorant of the fact that, the cycle of birth, life and death are mere mirage. Therefore, it is not possible for one to accept the fact that, the world is illusion, till he becomes aware of the fact that , the self is neither the waking entity nor the self is dream entity but the self the formless soul or consciousness ,which is the  substance and witness of the three states. Therefore, for those who believe the waking entity as self, and refuse to accept the soul as true self, think that by getting rid of the ego by surrendering to their imaginary source is not the means to self-realization. the seeker  has to realize the fact that, one has to become aware of the existence of the formless witness of the three states, which is the soul, the innermost self. 
  
  

  The ego, body and the world appear together and they disappear together. The ego, body and the world are one in essence. 
  
  

  Waking entity is false self within the false experience whereas the self is birthless and deathless because self is formless. Thus surrendering with the false self within the false experience is bound to false surrender. The surrendering is a religious fable meant for the ignorant people. 
  
  

  Sage Sri, Sankara says: - VC-47 All the effects of ignorance, root and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the not-Self.

The objective world-the world of names and forms-has no independent existence.***

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To realize the Advaitic truth the seeker has to be free from all superstitions and orthodox contamination. ***

Sage Sri, Sankara’s Supreme Brahman is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal and Akarta (non-agent). It is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as It is beyond the reach of the senses. Brahman is non-dual, one without a second. It has no other beside it. It is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Brahman cannot be described, because description implies distinction. Brahman cannot be distinguished from any other than It. In Brahman, there is not the distinction of substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constitute the very essence or Svarupa of Brahman, and not just Its attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sankara is impersonal.

Self –knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is inexhaustible wealth. Other wealth disappears as one spends, but with the Self –knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, the more one shares more he gains.  

The self is not the ‘I’.  ‘I’ is present in the form of mind. The origin of mind is soul. The mind is present in the form of the universe. The soul is present in the form of consciousness.  The root of the universe is consciousness. 
 
The origin of mind is the soul. The soul is the innermost Self. The formless soul is present in the form of consciousness. 

It is erroneous to   hold "Brahman =I" as some of the gurus hold because the ‘I’ itself is an illusion.It is consciousness which being divided into parts, and viewed from the standpoint of the waking entity or ego, which is the false self within the false experience (waking). In reality there is no division in consciousness. Therefore the form, time and space mere illusion created out of consciousness. In reality the form, time and space are one in essence. 

Only through Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana negation of duality is possible. The soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is ultimate truth or Brahman. The consciousness is the cause of the origin, maintenance, and withdrawal of the universe is Advaita (i.e. non-dual), it means that the consciousness transcends all conceptions, positive and negative. Nothing positive can ever be imagined or said about it.  The consciousness is existence absolute, awareness absolute.  The existence absolute means that consciousness is not unreal or non-existent. And it is not unconsciousness.  Nothing positive can be stated about consciousness.
 
The consciousness can be seen in all the three states because the three states are an illusion created out of consciousness.   The waking, the dream (duality) and the deep sleep (non-duality).   
 
The soul, the innermost self is present in the form of – pure consciousness or objectless awareness. Objectless Awareness is the real nature of the soul, the innermost Self.
 
Consciousness is ultimate truth or Brahman. Reality is very clearly defined and it has a specific significance. It means, "That which exists in all the three states of consciousness (waking state, dream state and deep-sleep state) undergoing any change.in the realm  of truth the three states are one in essence. That essence is consciousness, therefore the soul, which is present in the form of consciousness, is absolute Reality. The soul, the innermost self is birthless, deathless and changeless is ultimate reality or Brahman. It is necessary to realize the fact that ‘I’ itself is an illusion in order to realize the universe is an illusion".
 
The universe appears "real" only in the "waking experience;" but it is it disappears in the dream and deep-sleep states. The three states are one in essence. Therefore all the three states are mere mirage created out of single essence. That essence is consciousness. Thus on the standpoint of the soul, the innermost self the three states are unreal. 
  
Swami Vivekananda:~  The Higher your ideal is, the more miserable you are,' for such a thing as an ideal cannot be attained in the world — or in this life, even. He who wants perfection in the world is a madman — for it cannot be. How can you find the infinite in the finite? 
 
It has not been possible to preach Advaitic Truth entirely free from the settings of dualistic weakness it has not been more operative and useful to mankind at large because only few will be able to grasp and realize it.
 
To realize the Advaitic Truth a freer and fuller scope the seeker has to realize the form, time and space are one in essence. And that essence is consciousness. And the soul, the innermost self is present in the form of consciousness. 
 
To realize the Advaitic truth the seeker has to be free from all superstitions and orthodox contamination. The seeker has to be dedicated to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana   alone.'
 
A  Gnani will easily appreciate the high flights of Sage Sri, Sankara’s Advaitic wisdom is one of the 'most majestic structures and valuable products of the Genius of man in his search for Truth.