Saturday, April 13, 2013

Adyathmic Discussion -399



Trev Light Bown:-

What is the meaning of Akram Vignan. ?

Dear Trev,
There are so many paths prescribed by many sages of truth in India with or without rituals but many takes us nearer to the truth but they fail to reach the ultimate end of understanding. Many sages of truth have introduced many paths and commented on the enlightened people. It has always been so in India, because much dust gathers as time passes. Now, the scriptures were translated and interpreted in a totally different world. Those sages have disappeared, their wisdom also has disappeared, and that world no more exists.

I don’t want to criticize any saint or gurus but I only want to say there is no need to follow any one or follow any path or take initiation from any guru. What is needed is perfect understanding of what is what leads one to non-dualistic or Advaitic self-awareness.

 If any promises extraordinary path of liberation of instant Self-realization is not a Gnani. And such path is egocentric path not soulcentric path. A Gnani will never promise such instant realization but he says it is not the man who has to get realized because it is the soul, which is in ignorance of its own true nature, has to wake up to reality. It is the soul; the innermost self- has to wake up to reality from the illusion.    If the soul wakes up than it is called self –realization.  A Gnani has no power to transmit Gnana to anyone because Gnana has to arise from within.  A Gnani only guides the seeker to the inner path which is formless, spaceless and timeless.

A Gnani will never pose himself as a Gnani. For a Gnani his body and his world cease to exist as reality because for Gnani his body is not the body, his ego is not ego his experience of the world is not the world but the body ego and the world are mere mirage created out of consciousness.   

Man and his world are product of ignorance. Ignorance is cause of experiencing the illusion as reality. When ignorance vanishes through wisdom then there is nothing exists other than consciousness.    such enlightenment is not true enlightenment.

First Mundaka - Chapter 2 (8) - Fools, dwelling in darkness, but wise in their own conceit and puffed up with vain scholarship, wander about, being afflicted by many ills, like blind men led by the blind.

Firstly the seeker has to overcome many obstacles, which is blocking his realization because he is gathered so much of dross and he is confused which pat is true path. Every guru declares and promises instant enlightenment but wisdom cannot be bought in spiritual super market.  

There are millions in search of truth but one in million will be able to grasp it.  I am just posting what revels from the inner core. I just share with likeminded fellow seekers.   I am just highlighting the obstacle in the pursuit of truth.  Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is not based on any teaching or teacher. Pursuit of truth is pursuit of verification not pursuit of argument.   Intellectual discussion is great hindrance in pursuit of truth.

When one is unable to quench his spiritual thirst from his guru or teaching he has to look elsewhere to clear the cobwebs of his understanding and to move forward in his spiritual quest.

There are millions in search of truth but one in million will be able to grasp it.  I am just posting what revels from the inner core. I just share with likeminded fellow seekers.   I am just highlighting the obstacle in the pursuit of truth.  Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana is not based on any teaching or teacher. Pursuit of truth is pursuit of verification not pursuit of argument.   Discussing with Intellectual is great hindrance in pursuit of truth because intellectuality is based on individuality whereas the self is not an individual.  

All the FP and IP blogs are verified truth derived from deeper self-search. If one goes on reading all his doubts and confusion will start clearing. It takes time to receptive to Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana because it is soulcentric knowledge whereas all accumulated knowledge is egocentric.

All accumulated knowledge is of no use in path of wisdom. Without realizing “What is truth it is impossible to realize “What is untruth?” Without realizing what is truth and what is untruth it is impossible to assimilate the Self –Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. Thus one must know with full and firm conviction what truth is.

The wisdom consists in knowing the truth, that everything (mind or physical existence) is consciousness. Freedom (ultimate truth) is always there yet one does not know it.  But to those whose reason is turned away from physicality and who have attained the serenity of the soul or consciousness, the innermost self, are quite near to realizing the ultimate truth or Brahman. 

To think once own body and his experience of the world is an illusion is difficult matter, unless one realizes the self is not physical but it is formless soul it is difficult to have glimpse of truth.

When one realizes the fact that, the self is not physical but the formless soul, naturally the body and universe becomes illusion.

The mind (universe) is emanating from soul (consciousness) means the mind is being effect from consciousness is not different from it. Deeper analysis shows it. Analysis needs deeper thinking and reasoning. Mind is whole universe thus it has a form. But where is the form in consciousness (formless soul) because consciousness is like an ocean and mind is like wave.  The universe is same consciousness, as the ocean produces the wave, so the consciousness produces the mind (universe).

The moment one knows the mind (universe) is consciousness, and then there is no ignorance. If one knows consciousness as self then everything is consciousness, the consciousness is second to none.  The mind is consciousness but due to ignorance one mistakes it for something else. One thinks the self is within the body; but the self is without the body and the world.

It is no use of arguing with someone who has faith in his belief system because for him there can be no possible refutation of what he believes, so rational argument is entirely useless. He clings to his belief so strongly that he makes no distinction between the truth and his belief. One has to know the fact that god cannot exist without his existence. The truth does not depend on gods’ existence but it entirely depends on man’s existence.   Thus it is foolish to venture in knowing the truth of gods existence without verifying the facts about his own existence. 

It is difficult for tradition-bound people to accept anything as truth other than what they inherited from then in born and inherited conditioning and parental grooming and their accumulated knowledge. Only intense urge to know the truth and courage to accept the truth after verification with better understanding one will be able to drop all his accumulated dross, which is the main obstacle in self-realization.