Tuesday, December 29, 2009

The universe is the product of ignorance.+



The universe is the product of ignorance. The five senses (body) are nothing to do with the Soul the Self because the Soul, the Self is ever formless and nondual.

From the standpoint of the Soul the Self the universe in which the body (you) exist is merely an illusion.
The dream universe and the five senses (dream body) become unreal when the waking takes place. Similarly, the waking experience in which you and the waking world exist becomes unreal when wisdom dawns. The wisdom dawns when the Soul remains in its own awareness in the midst of the duality.
Sage Sankara says ~ VC-162- There is no liberation for a person of mere book knowledge, howsoever well-read in the philosophy of Vedanta, so long as one does not give up the false identification with the body, sense organs, etc., which are unreal.
People dwelling in ignorance, but thinking of themselves as wise and erudite, go round and round by various blind beliefs and tortuous paths and practices, like the blind led by the blind.
Deliberate exercise in discrimination between real and unreal and renunciation of the false is real renunciation. : ~Santthosh Kumaar

Rig Veda, Vol. 6, Hymn 45 vs 16:~ “There is only one God, worship God in truth.”+

People are misled by their inherited religion which propagates Gods based on blind faith or belief as real God whereas their own sacred scriptures prove that what people believe and worship as Gods are not God in truth.

Upanishads say in effect that: ~ If you believe that the ‘Soul, the Self is one and God (Brahman) is another you cannot understand Truth.

The religion preaches that God is one and the ways to God are many. It simply tries to lead them to darkness with its dogma and idea of many Gods, which is apart from the Self.

People all over the world in the past and present accepted the idea of the existence of God. The fear of God injected by religion was the root cause of worship, superstitions, and dogmas. Religious belief is passed on to the populace from one generation to the next generation.

Yajur Veda – chapter- 32:~ God is Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions.


Yajurveda: ~ There is no image of God in truth. God in truth is unborn and eternal. (Chapter 32, Verse 3)

Yajurveda: ~ God in truth is nondual and pure."

Yajurveda: ~ "They are entering darkness, those who worship the natural things (like air, water, fire, etc.), they are sinking more in darkness who worship created things." (Chapter 40, Verse 9)

Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

It is for the seeker to realize what God is supposed to be in truth.

Rig Veda, Vol. 6, Hymn 45 vs 16:~ “There is only one God, worship God in truth.”

Rig Veda Bk. 8, Hymn 1, Vs 1:~Do not worship anyone besides God in truth.

People are being conditioned by the religious myth which has made them a non-thinker. People need to come out of the religious propagated myth by realizing God in truth.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma': - Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.:~Santthosh Kumaar

Tuesday, December 22, 2009

Consciousness is hidden by the universe because the universe is merely an illusion created out of consciousness, which is God in truth.+


If people have believed false Gods propagated by religion over millions of years, the length of time does not prove it is God in truth.

Consciousness is God in truth. Consciousness pervades everywhere in everything in the universe.
Consciousness is hidden by the universe because the universe is merely an illusion created out of consciousness, which is God in truth.

Self-realization arises only when you realize the Self is not you but the Self is the Soul with full and firm conviction, no other way.

God in truth is hidden by the universe because the universe is merely an illusion created out of God. God is in the form of Athma.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God in truth) is the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.


Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

God in truth is the Atman, the Self. Atman is present in the form of consciousness.

Do not accept any other God other than Atman not worship other than Atman.

Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Nothing is real but God. Nothing Matters but love for God in truth. God in truth is everywhere and in everything.

God in truth is hidden by the illusory universe. God in truth alone is and all else is an illusion.: 

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

How can you worship God? That implies two ~ the worshiper and the worshiped, whereas the God is non-dual. One can worship his idea of God only or realize his unity with it when he can’t worship it as a part.

When Upanishads and Vedas declare that, “God is the form of the Athma, and God is indeed Athma itself” then why accept another God in place of the Atman or worship other than the Atman.

People, who worship the belief-based God, are hallucinating that they become one with such God. Veda and Upanishads condemn worshiping God other than Athma.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says: ~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from him does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

Bhagavad Gita: 7: 19:~ "Such a man who has attained Self-knowledge, the knowledge of Atman, realizes the Self as~ Atman that alone exists~ everything is Atman, there exists nothing except Atman. Such a man is extremely rare"

Even Bhagavad Gita says: ~ “Brahmano hi pratisthaham Brahman (God in truth) is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material (Gita 14.27)

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Bhagavad Gita Chapter: ~ “All those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires, they worship many Gods. (7- Verse)

Vedas, Upanishad, and Bhagavad Gita Bible confirm the Soul, the Self, which is present in the form of the Spirit or consciousness is God in truth. :~Santthosh Kumaar

Wednesday, December 16, 2009

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless).+



The Vedas as a body of scripture contains many contradictions and they are fragmentary in nature. For Hindus, scriptures like the Bhagavad-Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharata, and Puranas are more attractive and appealing than the Vedas. And also, the Gods and Goddesses they worship differ considerably from the Vedic ones. The collection of hymns called Vedas are written in praise of certain deities by poets over several centuries and does not seem to have much significance for the Hindus

Yajur Veda says: ~

Translation 1

They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc.).

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)

Translation 2

"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent." (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith pg. 538)

Translation 3

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

So, Yajur Veda indicates that: ~

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc (Yajurveda 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, and bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship and glorify the non-~Vedic Gods in place of Vedic God when Veda bars such activities and also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

God exists prior to the appearance of form, time, and space. Form, time, and space cease to exist as a reality when wisdom dawns. Thus, the Gods and Gurus have no place in the domain of the Advaitic reality. Advaita is the nature of the Soul, which is the real God. Thus, Self-realization is the only way to God-realization.

By worshipping the religious Gods and Gurus one will not get Self-realization or God-realization.

The Soul, the inner Guru reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready.

The Upanishad says: ~ 'The human goal is to acquire Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana and they indicate the personal gods, scriptures, worship, and rituals are not the means to Self–Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, then why anyone should indulge in it. The religion, concept of individualized god and scriptures are the greatest obstacle to realizing non-dual truth or Self-realization because they are based on false Self. The seeker of truth has to search for the ultimate truth without losing himself in the labyrinths of philosophy, through deeper, inquiry, analysis, and reasoning, and assimilate and realize it.

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). God is above all needs and desires. God is always the Witnessing Subject. God can never become an object as God is beyond the reach of the senses. God is non-dual, one without a second. God has no other besides it. God is destitute of difference, either external or internal. God cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. God cannot be distinguished from any other than God. In God, there is not distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constituted the very essence or Svarupa of God, and not just God's attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

God is neither male nor female because God is non-dual. God is in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself. Athma is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

All Gods with forms and names are a reality within the dualistic illusion or Maya. the real God is hidden by the dualistic illusion or Maya. the dualistic illusion is present in the form of the universe (I).:~Santthosh Kumaar

Self-Search






Many seekers in this path of inquiry is still struggling even after long years and waiting for something to happen. Even after reading and inquiring deeply enough, still they are unable progress further.  Even they are unable to get any benefit in their spiritual pursuit through self – inquiry. And also they are unable to give up the self inquiry due to the attraction of Ramana.  Many seekers end up with using "Who am `I'" as mantra and become stagnant without being aware of the purpose of the self-inquiry. 
 As I was reading a web page I was surprised to know Mr. Sivapraksh Pillai one of the first disciples of Sri, Raman Maharishi that even after 50 long years he was unable to achieve his goal through inquiry, hats off to his sincere and honest statement. 
In my honest opinion with all the due respect to every soul which was involved in recording and publishing the self inquiry which is greatest treasure and which opens the golden gate to  the seeker to enter into spiritual world from religious world. Still there is lots confusion and doubts which are impossible to get answer the way the inquiry is presented in the books. But one will be able to overcome the same after lots of research. But it is impossible to do research in the present framework of the Self-inquiry. Since everyone is expecting and waiting for some mystic experience to happen and refuse to verify and accept the truth, because of there conservative outlook.
WHO AM I
 Even the intellectual- class, who have authored many books are viewed and judged Sri, Ramana on mystic point of view were unable to deliver goods due to their inherited religious background. Sri, Ramana was mystic for the mass but he was Gnani for the class.
Religious based Advitha is nothing to do with spiritual Advitha .Original Advitha was modified on the base of Vedas and introduced to suit the mass mind set by Sri, Sankara to uplift the Sanatana Dharma[Hinduism] which was based on Vedas. Even Sri, Sankara also says the religion, scriptures and yoga are not the means to self realization. Spiritual Advitha of Sankara was lost. Spiritual Advitha is nothing to do with religious Advitha since the aim of spiritual Advitha is to acquire only wisdom.
 It also becomes evident that different people who have interviewed Raman at different time had different back ground and mind set. Therefore it is necessary to bifurcate religious views of Sri Raman from his spiritual views to get the hidden essence of Sri Ramana's teaching.
S.S. COHEN, Nisrgdutta Maharaj, Poonjaji and Osho`s books are more helpful in pursuit of truth but not to the core.  Any way one has to do his own home work and research. I find not only inquiry but reasoning is most important in unfolding the mystery.
Nisargadutt Maharaj clears many doubts and hurdles but still one cannot reach the ultimate truth since there are little confusions for which the seeker will not find reasonable reasoning.  
S.S. Cohen has done excellent research on Raman but still there are many hidden massages which can be unfolded if the inquiry is well directed if reason is used.
 Seeker cannot sit expecting some mystic experience to happen and which will unfold the mystery and helps one to experience the bliss.
All the mystic experience is based on yoga and religion. Yoga is necessary for preparatory stages and yoga is not means for self realization. Religion is used in the past as a tool condition the mind, to be, to behave, to believe, to live and create its own pedigree of mindset to  help the society to live in harmony with its own code of conduct. Religion is nothing to with spirituality. Spirituality is the tool to unfold the mystery of the mind. Therefore religion and god or guru glorification, scriptural studies are not necessary in pursuit of truth. 
 Inquiry with reason on the proper (true) base only will help the seeker to unfold the mystery of the mind or human experience.
The conservative religious background in which every seeker is sentimentally involved is the main hurdle and obstacle in realizing the truth. Therefore it is necessary for everyone to know how they are hurdle and create fatter in truth pursuit. It is necessary for the seeker of the truth to have the courage to accept the truth and reject the untruth when the truth is unfolded through inquiry and reasoning and analysis. Ramana`s grace will pour only when the seeker accepts the truth and rejects the untruth.
The main hurdle one has to cross when one inquires "WHO AM `I'" and proceeds further as per the instruction in the book, one finds it difficult in the latter stage and finds something is inadequate and wrong somewhere. Therefore it is necessary to find and remove the obstacles to reach the goal.
When one gets the answer I am not the body then the inquiry ends there. If `I' is not the body then one cannot inquire on the physical base. Since the mind, ego senses whatever one experienced as a person of the world, god, religion, scriptures and whatever seen and known loses its meaning because `I' itself cannot exist without the physical body.  Therefore there is no meaning in carrying out inquiry on the physical identity saying I am not the senses, I am not the mind, and I am not this I am not that etc. because along with body the mind sense and ego and the physical experience of the world is rejected along with the physical body. When the physical body is not `I' there is no entity to practice Self enquiry. Then if you accept there is nothing further, then it becomes Buddha's emptiness. But it cannot be empty because still something remains to say it is empty as Goudpada declares.  Therefore it becomes difficult to inquire on the physical base.
·         Then "What is `I'?" takes the seeker further and he become aware of the fact that `I' is not "Self".
·         "But what is `I'?  When `I' is not "Self" then "What is `I'".
After 20 years of practice inquiry I came to firm conclusion that the inquiry alone will not yield any fruits inquiry with reasoning and analysis will take the seeker towards reality of the true state of the mind.
 
·         `I' becomes the whole experience of the universe including the body
·         If `I' is not `Self then  what is `Self'
·         "What is `Self"?
·         The self is the substance and witness of the universe
·         What is the substance?
·         The substance is the formless non-dual Ataman or spirit which is the true nature of the mind.
The main purpose of inquiry is to diverting the attention of the mind from the experience of duality to its formless non-dual true state. 
 When the mind is in its formless non-dual true state it is Ataman. When Ataman or spirit is in the illusory state of duality it is `I'.  Therefore the seeker of the truth has to start with "Self –Inquiry" because it is the first step. But inquiry alone will not yield fruits; there is no use of waiting in vain for some mystic experience to happen. The wisdom will not dawn without reasoning. 
Until and unless the seeking base is rectified the inquiry will not go further. This is my observation and conviction. Inquiry with reasoning and analyzing will definitely yield results. Therefore keeping all these points in mind removing all the fetters and barricades in self inquiry we have to help the seeker to realize the reality of his existence in lesser time and effort in this very life. 
Deeper personal research is necessary in this matter. The conservative intellectual class who only accept what they have inherited, what they know, what they have read and what they have accepted as ultimate truth and they don't have humility to verify and accept the truth as truth. Therefore there is no use of mingling with such mind sets which will yield no fruits.
There is a necessary to rectify the format of inquiry by deeper research by removing all fetters and obstacles and prove the same with the Sri, Raman's own words which are scattered here and there in his answers to the questions collected by many seekers, which will help the fellow seekers to realize the truth in lesser time and effort. 
  By using reason on true base you  will find it much interesting and you can prove to your self  the fact `I' is not the self and there is no use of searching the truth on the base of `I'  which yields no fruits. And self –realization is possible through properly well directed inquiry and reasoning without physical practice but through mental effort by deeper reasoning and analysis. There is a need to present the inquiry in a proper format and a yard stick to know what is truth and what is untruth to help the seekers to progress in there pursuit of truth. I have kept the format and yardstick ready but I am going to introduce it shortly.  
Since everything is happening on its own accord not as one wish and wills.  One has to witness the happening on the base of the invisible witness to realize the witness is apart and unaffected.

The Vedic system did not have a caste system. The caste system was a fake created in the name of Hinduism.+



The Vedic system did not have a caste system. The caste system was a fake created in the name of Hinduism. 

This non~Vedic belief system called Hinduism has created hatred in the low-caste Hindus for the higher caste.

Hinduism is not a religion. Rather it is a group of castes and creeds founded by different founders at different times within India that share common beliefs while still remaining very different.

Many may even argue that it is not a religion but more a way of life. The term "Hinduism" was not developed by the practitioners, but by groups outside of the religions as a means for labeling the entire Indian people.

Many groups within Hinduism claim a sort of "going back to the Vedas". While these groups are attempting to create a bond with the Vedas, they will never be followers of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion while they still hold their core ideals.

Hinduism indulges non-Vedic beliefs such as idolatry, ancestor worship, pilgrimages, priestcraft, offerings made in temples, the caste system, untouchability, and child marriages. All these lack Vedic sanctions, therefore, Hinduism is not Ancient Vedic religion or Santana Dharma.

These core beliefs are at odds with those of the Vedas. Many followers of Hinduism do translate the Vedas to fit into Hindu thought by changing the translation to reflect the beliefs of monism, reincarnation, the caste system, and the absence of animal and human sacrifice. However, this poor translator.

A well-known movement to go "back to the Vedas" is the Arya Samaj movement. This movement was started in 1875 by Dayananda Saraswathi. It was a movement within Hinduism that was meant to turn back to the Vedas. It was their belief that the Vedas alone were sacred and the only revelation of God. They also believed that all of the sciences of the modern world could be found within the Vedas.

As has been already stated, Arya Samaj is a follower of Hinduism. While they are attempting to go back to the Vedas, they are not Vedic. While they do not accept the texts past the Vedas, they are still monists and uphold other Hindu views. In their reformations, they rejected Brahminic control and they are open to all castes and women.

The Vedic culture and religion eventually came to dominate, and define, India. Towards the end of the Vedic period, many scholars within Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion began to start a process of thinking differently about how they were connected to the Gods, to Heaven, and to Yajna. It was this questioning mixed with the ramped corruption of the different theories that helped lead the way to the Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion fall.

The people who had once practiced Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion were now on their way to adopting new philosophies and ways of communing with the divine(s).

The religions that splintered off from Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion took ideas, thoughts, and beliefs from Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion and brought them into new ways of thinking that were meant to rebel against the Vedic religion, thus negating them as a different sect of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion.

Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion was not allowed to evolve further as a religion, instead, it lay stagnant while other religions splintered off from it. These religions took specific beliefs within Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion and followed them to their own ends, thus ending the Vedic period and the religion of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion. Some of the off-shoot religions of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion are Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

Moksha is interpreted in various ways. It means the dispelling of ignorance, freeing the Soul, the Self from the bondage of the illusory experience of birth, life, death, and the world--all other meanings regarding heaven, etc. are all imagination.

Moksha only means knowing the ultimate truth or Brahman. That is why they have coined the word Jivanmukta.

In the Vedic era, a Brahmin was a person who had attained Self- knowledge or Atma Jnana. This was an extremely difficult path of the discipline of body, mind, and intellect, and people irrespective of their birth or class, who were dedicated to such an austere life, were recognized as Brahmins.

A great example of this tradition (that a person becomes a Brahmin, rather than born as one) is the case of Vishwamitra, a warrior (Kshatriya), who became a Brahmin after attaining Atma Jnana or Self-Knowledge.:~Santthosh KUmaar

From the Vedic perspective, all your religious Gods are non-Vedic Gods based on Mythology and are not God in truth.+


From the Vedic perspective, all your religious Gods are non-Vedic Gods based on Mythology and are not God in truth.
Religious Gods are based on blind belief. Blind belief-based Gods are not God in truth.
Religious God cannot be considered as the center because, the Soul, the innermost ‘Self’ is the center of all that exists.
Without the Soul the world in which you exist ceases to exist, which means the religious God is dependent on the Soul for his existence. God in truth is only the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.
Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.
Do not accept any other truth other than the consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth, Nothing is real but consciousness,. Nothing Matters but realizing the ultimate truth. Consciousness is everywhere and in everything. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.
Even Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).
When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.
Even Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God in truth) is present in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.
Even Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)
Brihadaranyaka Upanishad:~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from the Self does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)
That is why Sage Sage VC- v6~ Let erudite scholars quote all the scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal Gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together.
Sage Sankara goes on to say: ~A sickness of not cured by saying the word “medicine.” You must take the medicine. Liberation does not come by merely saying the word “Brahman.” Brahman must be realized. Until you allow this apparent universe to dissolve from your consciousness until you have realized Brahman, how can you find liberation just by saying the word Brahman? The result is merely a noise. Until a man has destroyed his enemies and taken possession of the splendor and wealth of the kingdom, he cannot become a king by simply saying “I am a king.”
A buried treasure is not uncovered by merely uttering the words: “Come forth.” You must follow the right directions, dig, remove the stones and earth from above it, and then make it your own. In the same way, the pure truth of the Atman, which is buried under Maya and the effects of Maya, can be reached by meditation, contemplation, and other spiritual disciplines but never by subtle arguments.
The Atmic path is not for religious and yogic-minded people. Religious and yogic people must move on to their chosen path. The Atmic path is for only seekers of truth who are seriously searching for the truth of their own existence. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar