It is for the seeker to discover and realize the "Self" is not the form but "Self" is formless soul , no one else can realize it for him.

If the  “Self ” is not body, then how can the body take the authorship of the invisible entity, which functions itself as the body and perceives the world, as a person within the waking or dream?

 Thus if one takes authorship as body as self, it will be a false claim. The individual experiences within the world are within the waking or dream. The  formless soul, which is in the form of consciousness, is the witness of the mind, which is in the form of universe. and universe  appears as waking or dream. Thus the mind is mere mirage created out of the consciousness.  On the standpoint of the consciousness, the three states are mere mirage. The substance and witness of the mirage is formless   consciousness(soul) real and eternal. 

Thus the onus is on person who dispute, has to prove that the burden of the three states is on the individual physical entity.

The question based on the ego or waking  entity is of no use because the waking entity or ego is false self within the false experience Therefore, one has to make sure of the fact that, whether 'Self ', is the physical body(waking entity)  or 'self', is something other than the physical body(waking entity) .

Otherwise find what is it that functions as body and perceives the world, as a person, without that invisible inner most self  the body cannot function and perceive the world. 

If one mentally  traces the  formless witness of the three states , then he will know the the three states are  not witnessed by the waking entity(ego) , but  it is witnessed by the formless soul or consciousness, the innermost self. Therefore on the standpoint of the soul or consciousness, the innermost self  one will be able to  decide the self is neither the waking entity nor the self is dream entity but the self is the formless soul which witnesses the coming and going of the three states.. If one makes little mental effort through inquiry and reasoning, he will able to move towards the effortless state, which is natural state of the mind.

One has to question himself: what is it that functioning as body and perceives the world as person. If person is not the experience of person, then what is it that experiences itself as person? These seeds of doubts will help one to peel the illusion and, there will be no illusion left, only non-dual reality will prevail as ultimate truth, which is the soul or consciousness . 

Thus, It is  for the seeker to discover and realize  the "Self" is not the form but "Self" is  formless soul , no one else can realize it for him. on the stand point of the  formless soul or consciousness, the innermost self , the body and the world are mere mirage created of the consciousness. 

There is neither individual nor his experience of the world in reality.

Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood. There is neither individual nor his experience of the world  in reality. Man and his experience of the world cannot exist without waking experience. Whatever we are discussing, we are discussing within the waking experience. One has to know: whether physical body and the world are within the mind or the mind is within the physical body? The mind, physical body, ego and the world are present only, when the whole experience of the waking or dream is present. And mind is absent, when the waking/dream experience is absent. Thus one has to conclude the mind as the whole waking or dream experience. Thus the mind appears and disappears as waking or dream experience. All your arguments are truth only on the base of the ego, which is the false self, within the false experience [waking]. The individual experiences within the waking are as real as dream.

 Suppose the same subject, if we are discussing in the dream and one asks me the same questions in the dream, then whatever he said in dream becomes unreal, when the waking takes place. Whatever one saying now, he is saying within the waking experience. The waking is unreal on the base of the formless witness, which is Atman. Atman is in the form consciousness.

How does one see various objects, scenes and persons during dreams? If the dream is experienced without the physical body, then what is it that experiences the dream? Therefore, there must be a formless witness of the dream world. This formless witness is the same witness that is witnessed this Waking experience also. Therefore the Waking experience and dream both are witnessed by one and only formless witness of which the seeker is not aware of. Since he considers the physical body [I] as the self or witness and views and judges the world-view on the standpoint of false self, within the false experience. The formless witness can exist with or without the waking or dream. But waking /dream cease to exist, without the formless witness.

The gross Waking experience is merged into the mental experience in the sense that, when it is analysed, it is found to exist inseparably in and as the mind alone. All "spiritual" planes are really mental: those who regard them as different or higher are deceiving themselves. The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly the waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. Therefore everything has to be grasped mentally, not argued on the intellectual point of view, which is limited to the false physical entity within the false experience.

The unreal is created out of real, and when one views and judges on the standpoint unreal [ego] then there is duality. When one is able to view and judge on the standpoint of real [Atman/true self] then there is only non -duality. Therefore, when the wisdom dawns then there is neither duality, nor non duality, only reality. This is my views and conviction.

All these confusion will go on, until man thinks, he is an individual and apart from the world, and the world existed prior to him and he is born in it afterwards. Therefore, it is necessary to know the fact the true self is not ego, but the true self is the soul, and stop viewing and judging the world-view on the standpoint of the physical self [ego], and one has to view and judge on the true self [soul/Atman] to realize the fact that, the world along with man is illusion. The formless substance from which the illusion is created is Atman. Thus Atman is Brahman/ultimate reality. Thus no second thing exists on the standpoint of Atman or consciousness as self. Thus there is neither experience nor the experiencer in non-dual reality but only self-awareness.

Mind is in an experience. Mind appears as waking or dream [duality] and disappears as deep sleep [non-duality]. Man and his world are within the waking or dream.  The waking experience is parallel dream. And dream is parallel waking experience.  Thus trying to experience the truth as an individual is total impossibility.  Thus the people who are trying to experience the self as in individual are in hallucination because self is not an individual it is universal. Self which is consciousness pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states. Thus the people who are expounding knowledge that self can be experienced as an individual are playing with the feelings and sentiments of the people and make them hallucinate and keep them permanently in the grip of hallucination.  The truth has to be mentally traced and grasped, understood assimilated and realized by deeper self-search because it is hidden within the three states but it is beyond the three states. 

That is why Sri, Sankara indicated in Viveka Chudamani : - 65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.

66. Therefore the wise should, as in the case of disease and the like, personally strive by all the means in their power to be free from the bondage of repeated births and deaths.

Seeker of truth has to direct realization of the true self, through deeper, inquiry, analysis and reasoning   and avoid losing precious time and effort loosing himself in philosophical studies.

Both modern science and religion offer hypotheses and theories but there is one vital difference--science begins with facts which it collects; religion begins with fancies. Science evolves its hypotheses from such facts, religion from fancies.

Science declares that oxygen combines with hydrogen to give water. And it also declares oxygen is protons or electrons. But in pursuit of truth the whole physical existence [universe or mind] is considered as illusion and science and their inventions, which are based on the physical existence is limited to physical existence. The truth is within but it is beyond the physical existence.  The science demands physical proof.  But the physical proof is part of the illusion. Hence science cannot go beyond physicality because the truth cannot be traced with laboratory conditions.  Deeper Inquiry, analysis and reasoning is required if one wants to push its quest deeply enough.

Common people and primitive minds fall into faulty thinking through their inherited conditioning , such faulty thinking and reasoning  makes them accept the experience of birth, life and death as reality ; taking what one sees through  the senses  as real, taking what is apparent obvious and superficial as true because it is less troublesome.

Many People adopt the attitude that what   they know is truth. And what others say is false. This attitude makes them not to verify anything other then what they know.   One needs to be rational, not merely logical. Logic is has its value only in physical plane.

As one advances towards spiritual plane he sees the logic underlying experience and becomes more rational. His reasoning is two-fold--implicit and explicit.

There is a need of facts of physical proof in scientific invention, whereas in pursuit of truth the proof has to be grasped mentally and realized.  Therefore, the truth is realized only by few who take this mental pursuit.  “Whatever facts revealed, which is un-contradictable has to be accepted as truth.

The truth based on the formless soul/self is worthwhile; without it, one has something else, not truth.  Most people refuse to venture into pursuit of truth; because they do not want to go into the root of things.

The seeker of truth has to study, inquire and reason in the beginning of the pursuit of truth, because it is absolutely necessary in pursuit of truth.

One has to know the true self is not physical but the formless spirit.  The spirit or soul or the self is in the form of consciousness. Consciousness gives one the awareness of the three states. 

The ignorance of the true self is the cause of experiencing the duality as reality.  The ignorance vanishes through realization of the true Self, which is the soul/spirit. 

People are not capable of knowing, which path is true path, because they do not know the proper test of truth.

Karma means action. Action leads to believe the experience of birth, life, death and world as reality, not to perception of the Reality. The realisation of Truth is brought about by discrimination and not in the least by individual conduct and act.

By adequate reasoning the conviction of the reality about the true existence is gained, which puts an end to the great fear and misery caused by the waking experience worked up in the ignorance.

Nothing is born, nothing is destroyed. No duality, no likes and dislikes. There is no second thing exist other than awareness of the self.  If this is perceived, than it is nondual reality.

The conviction of the nondual truth is seen to proceed from soul-centric reasoning, and it does arise neither by bathing in the holy rivers, nor by a doing Kriya yoga Pranayama or control of the vital force nor by glorifying gurus.

Success depends essentially on a qualified aspirant; time, place and circumstances and other such means are but auxiliaries in this regard.

Seeker after the truth should take to soul centric reasoning and discriminate between dual and nondual experiences to realize what truth is and what is untruth. 

The seeker who has intense urge in knowing the truth and sharp in grasping, skilful in understanding and assimilating without the scriptures, the one who has got these characteristics is the fit recipient of the self- knowledge.

People, who have not become firm in their power of reason, quote someone else as authority to support their reasoning because they have not got fullest confidence in their own powers.

When one is certain, he does not need any authority to support or confirm himself. There is no need for it.  To appeal to others views, indicates his own reasoning is incomplete. 

The seeker   must not tell a lie is the first requirement in pursuit of truth.” What he like for practical life it is not concerned with. Seeker has to keep his intuitions and instincts at a distance and he has to stick to known fact.  To inquire, analyze and reason means to go to the very end of things. 

Sharpness to grasp the truth is necessary in pursuit of truth. By merely hearing the truth mentioned they will grasp it.  

Seeker has to to analyze the three states; and he has to think consistently on it. Exercise his thinking faculty and inquire continually; discrimination is essential; this practice is the only way to understand, assimilate and realize the non-dual truth. 

Most people have a complex "I know". One  has to gives up the “I know” business.     because of the accumulate knowledge  one can’t get rid of the ideas "which are full of contradictions".  Those who do not want the truth do not see the contradictions  in their  unverified accepted truth and are satisfied with their accepted truth. 

The modern science is based on the physical based facts, whereas the ultimate  truth or brahman is based on facts of the true existence. The pursuit of starts with the physical  facts, but carries its inquiry deeper. Seeker has to go more deeply into investigating  his own existence  and know  the facts he becomes a Gnani, automatically, merely by deeper reflection. Mind merges into soul ultimately and there is no other way for it. 

Many people quote non-duality without understanding it really in its highest aspect. One who calls himself a Gnani, but whose philosophy religion and mere quoting scriptures is really by heart he thinks he is a Gnani.  He does not know that what a scripture says is true or not because he is blindly accepted scriptures without verifying them and he quotes them as proof. 

 There are conflicting teachings in spiritual path and one gets confused as to which are true. People are not capable of knowing, which path is true path, because they do not know the proper test of truth.