The form time and space within the dream are falsehood when waking takes place. Similarly the form, time and space of the waking are also falsehood when wisdom dawns.

 

The form time and space within the dream are falsehood when waking takes place. Similarly the form, time and space of the waking are also falsehood when wisdom dawns. The wisdom dawns only when one realize the self is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity. Thus it is erroneous to judge and reason and conclude the ultimate truth on the base of waking entity and waking world because waking experience itself is illusion.

Suppose you were holding the same view in the dream, all your experiences and views are reality within the dream. The dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. Similarly the waking becomes unreal when you become aware the fact that, the self is not an individual.  Thus whatever individual experiences experienced within the waking is as unreal as dream.

 Until one thinks body as body and world as world it is impossible to grasp non-dual or Advaitic  truth, because his views and judgments are bases on physical self with the physical existence.  The individuality is reality with the waking experience but the waking experience itself is false hood. Thus holding the view as an individual within the false experience is erroneous on the ultimate point of view.  The waking is parallel dream and dream is parallel waking experience.

Scriptural Masters or Pundits teach that all is your-self, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analyzed it scientifically, and none can prove it.

Scriptural Masters or  Pundits teach that all is your-self, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analyzed it scientifically, and none can prove it. Rational proof is needed, so that one arrive at knowing truth i.e. wisdom; punditry is mere dogma, parrotism, repetition of what they read in scripture. Scriptures are not yardstick and scriptural truth is not proof.   Pundits take scriptures as authority.   Authoritarianism merely assumes as true what another says, but what has yet to be proved.

Upanishads:-

Fools dwelling in darkness, but thinking themselves wise and erudite, go round and round, by various tortuous paths, like the blind led by the blind. (Upanishads Nikhilananda -  Ch II-5 P-14)

Upanishad's say "He who thinks he knows, does not know." This means that to know anything implies a second, an object of knowledge, hence duality, i.e. no Gnana.

Second-hand knowledge of the self-gathered from books or gurus can never emancipate a man until its truth is rightly investigated and applied; only direct realisation will do that. Realise yourself, turning the mind inward. – Tripura Rahasya, 18: 89

The pursuit of truth is a mental journey. Deeper self-search  makes one aware of what truth is and what is untruth and the subconscious  will be able to reject the untruth after knowing, what is Truth. Whatever prevails after rejecting the untruth is the ultimate truth.

Pundits have to test truth in this world not in the next world.  There is no proof other then blind belief based on the scriptures, belief is not truth.  So, doctrines are not the means to realize the truth. There is no need to follow them. 

Doubts and Confusions arise when seeker finds the scriptures and yoga are inadequate or useless to quench his spiritual thirst.   Disappointments in religion or yoga or even science imply error or ignorance. Seeker reaches a stage whether he is right?" Where is the certainty that he is proceeding on right lines?" Thus doubts arise and the inquiring spirit comes and impels to search elsewhere for truth where it will not be possible even to have doubt. The test is therefore in experience. And only in non-duality, where there are no two to argue about views or to have difference of opinion can such doubtlessness be possible.  Belief depends upon unstable bases whereas certainty depends on proof.

Seeker of truth has to get rid of his doubts through deeper self-search on his own, to realize the fact that, the self is not the form but self is formless. Thus his analysis and reasoning has to be based on the formless not on the form.  By simply go on believing and accepting whatever said by the punditry will not lead one towards path of wisdom. All the doubt has to be got rid of "by the sword of Self - Knowledge."  The scriptures, yoga are not necessary if one follows the inner (formless) path.  Religion and yoga are not the means to path of wisdom. 

There is a controversy as to the meaning of Maya. One Advaitic School says it is a shakti of Brahman whereby both illusion and creation are brought about.

How do you know that it is the truth? If one bases it on the sayings of Rishis and saints, granting that they honestly believed in their experiences, there is still the query how do they know that these experiences were the truth?

Even in dream whatever experienced becomes unreal when waking takes place.  Similarly when wisdom dawns one becomes aware of the fact that, the self is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity.  Thus whatever experienced as waking experience is as real as dream.  Thus for a Gnani all the three states are mere mirage created out of consciousness, because he is fully aware of the fact that, the witness of the three states is not the body but consciousness.  A Gnani is fully aware of the fact that, his body, ego and universe are nothing but consciousness. Thus he finds the experience of any sort is play of consciousness and experience is mere mirage.  The one witnesses the experience, which is in the form of universe or mind is mere mirage.     

 Even mentally challenged people believe in what they see and feel and yet their experiences are often quite untrue. What then is it in us, which ascertains the truth of these experiences? If one says it is mystic experience, then everyone’s experience differs from another. Such disagreement does not settle the matter. Thus these are the two common sources—scriptural authority and Yogic Samadhi--but both are shown untenable because both are based on the false self-(waking entity or ego).

The body and the universe together is Mind.

To realize all the three states  as the spirit is the means of getting rid of the duality ,which one experiences as reality.  There is nothing higher than in identifying the mind  with the soul, the innermost Self.  One realizes this state by excluding the three states  through steadfastness in the eternal Atman.

When there is no mind , then there will be no duality. when mind  arises as waking and dream , and subsides as deep sleep .” He who pursues this closely, and  mentally  discovers the the origin of the mind ” and reaches the source of the  mind, and realizes the fact that, the soul alone is real and all else is mirage.

The whole universe and  the body is within the mind.  Hence the whole  universe  and its perceiver is contained in the mind. The body and the universe together is Mind.

The universe is nothing but the mind, and the mind is nothing but the Heart.  Thus the entire story of the universe culminates in the Heart.

A seeker of truth has to  reason about the mind  through the process of analyzing the three states, and reaches the source of the mind from where it rises and subsides.  He has to  reasons in this manner: True  self is not physical but it is formless soul/spirit . true Self  is neither the universe nor the physical body  but is is the formless substance and witness of the three states.  The three states are within the mind ,which appears as waking and dream and disappears as deep sleep.   As a result of such reasoning he attains the Absolute or ultimate truth.  Then he realizes  fact that the  three states are mere mirage created out of the soul or conciousness, the innermost self.

The summit of spirituality is the realization of the true self is not physical but the formless soul or consciousness or spirit. On the standpoint of the soul as self , the  three states  are mere mirage . the  soul is   the  Powers  the mirage.  The soul is the  ultimate truth.  

 

The whole Advatic teaching can be summed up into one sentence, ‘There is nothing else but Brahman. It says that the Absolute Existence, Absolute Knowledge and Absolute Bliss is Real. The universe is not real. It says that Brahman and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many in different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances.

 In fact Sage  Sri, Sankara states a paradox- the world is and is not. It is neither real nor unreal. It leads us to recognize the existence of Maya. He thinks that the world is illusory from one perspective and from the second it is nothing but Brahman, Itself in manifestation. This apparent world is Maya and has its basis in Brahman, the Eternal. It looks as real. It has names and forms and actually, it is not real In the light of true knowledge, it disappears and Self-alone shines as real. However Sage Sri, Sankara’s Mayavad has not been accepted by many preachers and philosophers.

When Sri, Sankara says clearly, the universe is not real. He says that Brahman and Atman are one. The ultimate and the Absolute Truth is the Self, which is one though appearing as many in different individuals. The individual has no reality. Only the Self is Real; the rest, mental and physical are but passing appearances, then it indicates the form (waking or duality or mind) is unreal and the formless soul ( soul or consciousness or FW) is real.  Therefore, only Atman is real because there is no second thing exist other than Atman, which is in the form of consciousness.

The ultimate truth has nothing to do with Scriptures and it is independent of scriptures.  The point is:  though it is taught by the Vedas, it does not require any belief in the infallibility of Vedas; in other words even if an individual or some other religion were to propose the same thing, a person with an open mind would come to the same conclusion that there is a fourth state, that it is Brahman - and that it is the same as the self.

People think that the enlightenment is about the experience of the timeless, formless, space less unmanifested dimension and it is possible by transcending ego

People think that the enlightenment is about the experience of the timeless, formless, space less unmanifested dimension and it is possible by transcending ego.  They also think that the universe is born millions of years ago and the universe erupted from the big void, from noting -ness.   But these ideas are mere speculation based on the false self within the false experience.

Where there is experience then there is duality.  Where there is duality then there is always illusion. Where there is illusion then there is always ignorance. Where there is ignorance there is always ego. Where there is ego the false hood experienced as reality. Therefore, getting rid of the falsehood in its totality is necessary to realize the reality. Thus, transcending ego alone one cannot gets non-dual reality, the whole false hood, which is in the form of mind or universe has to transcended mentally  in order realize the ultimate reality.    

It is erroneous to say that only by transcending the ego; one is able to experience formless, timeless and space-less unmanifested dimension. It is wrong to say that the universe erupted from the big void, from nothingness. All this are mere imaginations based on the false self.   

It is traditional belief that, if one meditates; he assumes no position in relationship with thoughts. One transcends his thought process. So when one transcends thoughts, he transcends mind, one transcend time. But all these belief based theoretical practices are not wisdom. Only through wisdom one is able to realize the ultimate truth which is beyond illusory form, time space which is in the form of universe.   

Those who lack the intelligence to discriminate between formless witness (subject) and three states [object] will not be able to grasp what is real and what is unreal. Both subject and object are consciousness, not subject alone.

The truth can never change. The nature of truth is, it can never be changed under any circumstances. It may be misrepresented. It must apply to the whole of existence, to the whole of the universe. It is in the object (three states) alone that one has all changes, as deeper analysis points out.

 The subject (formless witness) remains unchanged. The subject (formless witness), as such remains immortal. It can never die for it never changes. The body and world are an object, and goes, but the subject or knower of the body and the universe, can never go. Seeker has to take this principle as his guiding thread and non-dual truth becomes easy to grasp. The formless witness can never be subject to the changes of the object; it is unchanged. The mistake usually made is that subject becomes object, or that object is subject.