Advaita is nothing but God.+*****

People think the Soul is within the body therefore, they are God.  People study  Vedanta and they are under the delusion and conclude that they declare:~   "I-Am-Brahman",   but they fail to realize the fact that Brahman is everywhere and in everything! The existence of Brahman is not limited to his physical identity,   because of it the very essence of the form, time and space.

What is the use of saying ‘I AM’ God without knowing what God is in actuality?  You are not the Self, so you are not God.   The ‘Self' is the Soul, which is present in the form of the Spirit.  The Sprit is God.

The Vedas confirms God is Atman (Spirit), the  Self.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Bible says: ~ “God is a Spirit, and they that worship God must worship  God in Spirit and in Truth (John 4:24)”,

God means the ultimate truth. Ultimate truth is Spirit.  God is not physical. God is the Spirit. God is the  Self. God is birthless and deathless because God is the formless, timeless and spaceless existence.

The birth, life, and death happen within the illusory world, which is created out of Christ, which is present in the form of the Spirit. 

The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness.  From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved.   The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is.

In Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~   It has been said that God Supreme or Supreme Spirit.

If God is the formless Spirit, then how does the man know God created the world? There is no proof. If the man had seen God creating the world, he could admit it, but how could he have seen God before he came into existence? (i.e. were created). 

Remember:~

Advaita is nothing but God.

God in Vedas is not the God people believe and worship.

God in the Bible is not the God people believe and worship.

Bible says: ~ “God is a Spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth (John 4:24)”,

In Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ It has been said that God Supreme or Supreme Spirit.

Vedas and Upanishad confirm the Soul, the innermost Self, is present in the form of the Spirit or the consciousness.

If God is the formless, timeless and spaceless  Spirit, then how does the man know God created the world? There is no proof. If the man had seen God creating the world, he could admit it, but how could he have seen God before he came into existence? (i.e. were created).

The Spirit is the root element of the universe. The Spirit is present in the form of the Soul, the innermost Self. The Soul is present in the form of consciousness. From the Spirit, the universe comes into existence. In the Spirit, the universe resides. And into the Spirit, the universe is dissolved. The Spirit is the parent of all that is there is.

The Spirit is present in the form of consciousness. Everything is consciousness. All the moments are within the dualistic illusion.

Whatever happens within the dualistic illusion is bound to be an illusion created out of the consciousness. Thus, the consciousness alone is real and all else is merely an illusion.

“Spirit is my father and I and my father are one.”

If the Spirit is the father the son is bound to be the Spirit. The Spirit, the beloved alone is real and all else is merely an illusion.

There is no God in the dualistic illusion because the dualistic illusion created out of God, which is present in the form of the Spirit or the consciousness. Thus, God alone is real.

Spirit is prior to Love. Love implies duality. The love hides God. When love disappears the God appears. Find the Self, and Love the Self and rest in God, which is the Spirit.

Search for God. God is not within your body but it is hidden within the world in which you exist.

God is not in any mosque, temple or church. The religious Gods are not God in truth.

The dualistic worship of "God” only for the ignorant populace and Advaitic wisdom, unfolds the mystery of the real God.

Lord Krishna himself Says Ch~ V:~ “Those who know me in truth.". The last two words (tattvataha) are usually ignored by pundits, but they make all the difference between the ordinary concept of God and the truth about God.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27. )

It proves that the all-pervading Atman, which is present in the form of consciousness, is God. Thus, worshipping the form-based Gods is meant for the ignorant populace who are incapable of realizing the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.

Rig-Veda 1-164-46 and Y.V 32-1 clearly mention that God is “One”.

Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman the innermost self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

In Yajurveda – chapter- 32:~ It has been said that God Supreme or Supreme Spirit has no ‘Pratima’ (idol) or material shape. God cannot be seen directly by anyone. God pervades all beings and all directions. Thus, Idolatry does not find any support from the Vedas.

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God) is in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.

People who are saying ‘I Am GOD’ are hallucinating that they become God. First, you must know what is God.

That is why Ashtavakra Gita 16:10:~ If you desire liberation, but you still say "mine," If you feel the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’, You are not a wise man or a seeker. You are simply a man who suffers.

If one thinks the Advaitic truth is the ultimate truth, then he has to drop all theories based on the ‘I’. All the theories based on the ‘I’ are based on the dualistic perspective. How can one realize the nondualistic truth on the dualistic theories?

The ‘I’ hides the Advaita, which is the ultimate truth. Thus, why glorify the ‘I’ which is the cause of ignorance. The seeker has to make sure and accept only the uncontradictable truth.

That is why Bhagavad Gita: ~ “The permanent is always there, only the transient ‘I’ comes and goes.” (2.18)

The ‘I’ hides the Atman the God in truth. 

People think the ‘I’ without the body is the ‘Self’. The seeker has to understand the fact that ‘I’ is not the ‘Self’, but the witness of the ‘I’ is the true ‘Self’, which is eternal.

People are stuck with the reality of the ‘I’, which they take it as real because some Gurus have propagated the ‘Self’ is the ‘I’. is no need to convince such a mindset. The seeker of truth accepts only the truth nothing but the truth.

Advaita is not a theory.

Advaita is the nature of the truth.

Advaita is the nature of the Soul, the ‘Self’.

Advaita is the Soul itself’.

Advaita is the nature of God because Rigveda says the Soul itself’ is God.

Advaita is nothing but God.

Thus, it is time to realize the world in which we exist is created out of the Soul, which is the innermost ‘Self’. The Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness is the cause of the world in which we exist and it, itself’ is uncaused. The Soul alone is real and eternal. The eternal Soul itself is God. There is no other God other than the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Realize the Soul, the innermost is the ultimate truth or Brahman or God. The Soul, which is present in the form of the consciousness itself is God. The consciousness is the cause of the world in which you exist. And the consciousness itself’ is uncaused.

Thus, the truth realization itself is God-realization because the ultimate truth is Brahman or God. The ‘Self’-realization is God-realization and God-realization is real worship.

Nothing has to be accepted as God other than the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness. Atman is Brahman means the Soul alone is God. Atman is the Advaitic God. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Until the scientists become the seeker of the truth of their existence, the truth will not reveal.+****

Until the scientists become the seeker of the truth of their existence, the truth will not reveal. The truth of the whole cannot be got under the microscope.    When all their invention fails to yield truth they have to use their reason to reach the ultimate core of their existence.

The man who possesses the highest intellect can grasp Advaita, by merely hearing the truth mentioned will know it.

Bhagavad Gita: ~ Reason as a means to reality. (Chap.18 verse 37)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says: ~ I cannot save you, but I can give you Buddhi (reason). (chap. 10)

In chap. 10 of in Bhagavad Gita, Krishna says: ~ "I have given you the most secret teaching, now reflect over it all" Krishna plainly says reflect, think. (Verse 63 of Chap. 18)

Mundaka Upanishad says: ~  Both states are harmful and take you away from the path of inquiry into truth. (Page 234)

Ashtavakra Gita: ~ It is not the absence of Buddhi (Reason) that can grasp Advaita but the man who possesses the highest intellect. Brains are necessary. Such a man, by merely hearing the truth mentioned will know it. (Page~ 224). 

The ‘Self-inquiry’ is finding out the ‘Self’ which is hidden within the world, in which we exist. By inquiring ‘Who am I?’, the ignorance will not vanish. Without getting rid of ignorance, the Advaitic wisdom will not dawn. Without the Advaitic wisdom, it is not possible to realize the truth, which is hidden within the world in which we exist.

That is why Sage Sri Sankara Says: ~ VC-63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the ‘Self’ how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.

What is the use of saying ‘I AM THAT’ without knowing what the ‘Self’ is in actuality? Without knowing the truth of the Self, without realizing the truth of the world in which you exist it is impossible to realize the truth beyond the form, time, and space. By a mere utterance of the word ‘I AM THAT', the truth will not be revealed. :~Santthosh Kumaaar 

Adyathmic Discussion --415

When the whole universe, movable and immovable, is known to be consciousness, which is the inner most self and thus the existence of everything else is negated, where is then any room to say that the body is the self.

Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the Self, how is one to achieve. --FORMLESS PATH

 

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  Joe Polinger How is everything else negated? It isn't, thus its negation is simply by recognizing what is.

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  Santthosh Kumaar Only when waking entity realizes what is truth and what is untruth one is able to negate mentally the untruth by sticking to the truth. By realizing the untruth (mind or the universe or waking or ‘I’) is made of the truth (soul or consciousness) and in...See More

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  Joe Polinger Where the formless meets the form.

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  Santthosh Kumaar It is not the form meeting the formless but realizing the form, time and space are one in essence. On Non-dualistic perspective there is no scope for form, time and space because it is formless, timeless and spaceless existence. The nature of the soul or Atman the innermost self is formless, timeless and spaceless. Thus there is neither form nor time nor space in reality.

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Adyathmic Discussin -414 ( A Gnani sees only unity in diversity)

Trev Light Bown:- Thanks for your replies to questions.
 
I have no doubt that formless witness is true self.
 
Yet that knowing does not make a Gnani. Meditation I have always found a chore so to speak. Yet being aware and present may be easier for western minds..

My next question is again about the do-er. How can we make decisions when "we" as a person is a fallacy por illusion. The decisions we think we make happen automatically most of the time from conditioned reactions. Even the thoughts we think are not our belongings. I see this world of duality totally manifestations of past karmic reactions. Yes I agree with you that Gnani awakens out of this mind turbulence and is then formless non duality eternally unaffected.

But by you dismissing Karma as a working out of duality effects you create a missing link in my theory.

Dearest Trev,

Thank you for your soothing world.

I respect your opinion. There is no need to accept what ‘I’ say. Nothing has to be accepted as truth without verification. Nothing has to be judged by making some guru, some  teacher or some teaching as a yardstick.  There are diverse teachings in India with many famous gurus and yogi’s people can  choose their path  whichever pleases them.  All egocentric paths and practices are for the mass who are stuck with the reality of the world because they take it as real. And path of wisdom  or reason is for class who are ready and receptive to acquire self- knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.  Self-knowledge or Brahma  Gnana or Atma Gnana is not some theory based on the ego(waking entity)  such as Karma and Creation and  Creator, Cause and effect. All these theories are based on dualistic perspective.

    

A Gnani has never claimed he is a Gnani. A Gnani being in the illusion he is not of the illusion. Doer and doing and the world are all within the dualistic illusion.  With perfect equanimity, even in practical life within the practical world a Gnani attends all his worldly duties like any other commoner. He may have sorrows but he is in perfect equanimity because he is aware of the fact that, the physical awareness is mere illusion created out of the soul, the innermost self. He is fully aware his physical life started within the illusion and ends within the illusion. When it ends then the soul, the innermost is free from experiencing the form, time and space as reality. When the non-duality is viewed and judged on dualistic perspective it is impossible to acquire self-knowledge. The people who wait for something to happen automatically will not be able to cross the threshold of duality.  The self-realization depends on the seeker. The seeker cannot decide who is Gnani and who is A Gnani seeker has yet to acquire Gnana.   

The self is without the body and without the world.  The universe ceases to exist without the consciousness because the consciousness itself is the universe. People are unaware of the fact that, whatever the universe contains is also consciousness. The thought and the thinker, the individual experience of the birth, life and death, and the idea of personalized god, doer, doing are part of the universe.  Thus all these are also consciousness. Thus the whole universe is created out of the single stuff. Since people are stuck with the reality of the form, time and space they experience the duality as reality. On Non-dualistic perspective the duality is mere an illusion. 

When the self is birthless then the question karma Rebirth does not arise. When the present birth and experience of the  itself an illusion then  how can the karma done within the illusion is bound to be an illusion.  I  have mentioned in my many posts about everything and  on every angle.  Realize your body, your ego, your experience of the world with all its contents are mere illusion created of the single stuff and that single stuff is consciousness. And there is no second thing thing exists other than consciousness then where is your body. Your ego, your experience of the world along with all its contents.   

A Gnani sees only unity in diversity, just like a goldsmith estimating the gold in various items of jewelery sees only gold. When one identifies the self with the form then only the form, time and space are present. But when one   transcend form, time and space the duality never remain as reality --FORMLESS PATH

 

By a blind devotion and unquestioning obedience to Guru and by surrendering to Guru one will not get enlightenment.+*****

People think by a blind devotion and unquestioning obedience to Guru and by surrendering to Guru they get enlightenment.

They lose the independent thinking power, time, effort and their hard-earned savings in the hope of realizing God. People are emotionally vulnerable and “brainwashed and psychologically seduced,” by the myth propagated by the belief system,

The seeker of truth must be “too smart” to ever fall into the trap of the religious propagated myth.

The so-called enlightened Gurus who promise instant enlightenment for money are not Gnanis. The seeker of truth has to be very careful if he is seeking truth nothing but the truth.

Everyone pursuing or thinking of pursuing the path of wisdom need not fall into the trap of physical Guru. Devotion to physical Guru is the devotional path not the path of wisdom. Religious people follow the path of Bhakti and the yogic path. The path of wisdom is only for those who are serious in their quest for truth. Without an intense urge, it is difficult to tread the path of wisdom.

So many scandals of the fake Gurus are exposed in recent times. The darker side of modern Gurudom of fake Gurus and yogis so embarrassing~ sometimes vicious or criminal~ reports which they prefer to hide.

If one is seeking the truth, nothing but the truth, then he has to keep in mind, the truth cannot be bought in the spiritual supermarket.

Remember:~

There is no need to walk in the mountains in search of the truth. There is no need to meet any Gurus. There is no need to renounce family life. There is no need to study the scriptures. There is no need for glorifying the Gurus. There is no need to spend the fortune to please the Gurus. Going to the mountains, searching for a Guru, renouncing the family life, studying the scriptures, glorifying the personal Gods and Gurus are the greatest obstacle in the path of wisdom.

One need not be a monk, a sanyasi or swami to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. Religious rituals scriptural mastery, are not a qualification to acquire Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana. Monkhood and sanyasa are the greatest obstacles in truth-realization, which is beyond the form, time and space.

Guru, Swami, Yogi, Sadhu, and Avatar belongs to religious paths. Religious paths are path meant for ignorant who blindly accept their experience the birth, life, death, and the world as a reality because the universe is the product of ignorance.

When wisdom dawns then the unreal nature of the world in which you exist is exposed. Thus, whatever experiences take place within the world in which you exist is bound to be a falsehood.

The Guru, Swami, Yogi, Sadhu, and Avatara nothing to do with the ultimate truth or Brahman because they are based on the false Self (ego), and false experience (waking). The Path of wisdom is only for those who are seriously in search of ultimate truth or Brahman. Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana is the knowledge of the truth, which is beyond the form, time, and space.:~Santthosh Kumaar