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 Neither by Yoga, nor by scriptural studies, nor by action, n

By : Santthoshkumaar Kumaar on Feb 06, 2011 | Views (39) | Responses (2)

Since people use their accepted truth as yardstick, they will not be able know what is truth. They think they have mastered the whole Advaith philosophy or some teaching of great master but they will not be able to realize the nondual truth. Such people are like stagnant water collected in the pond, which stinks of their accumulated dross. They block the new knowledge to come in. Very few like you are fortunate to go to the ultimate end and realize it.

Discovering truth is one thing and Understanding and assimilating is another thing and realizing it is yet another thing.

The non-dual truth is very easy but very difficult to assimilate and realize it. The one who realizes the fact that, body and the universe are created out of consciousness, and then there is nothing else to know. By knowing this truth there is unity in diversity. There is no second thing exists other then consciousness. The diversity is mere mirage created out of consciousness.

Since, they are stuck with the idea that the body is made of flesh, bone and blood and universe is of the matter, they will be unable to accept their birth, life, death and world as illusion. By accepting the illusion as reality they will remain judging the worldview on the base of birth entity. Whereas, the true self is not the birth entity but it is the formless substance and witness [consciousness] of the illusory birth, life, death and world. For one who is aware of the consciousness as self, is also aware of the fact that, birth, life, death and world are mere illusion created out of consciousness.

Consciousness can never be destroyed, but it resolves back to its formless nondual true nature. Nothing is beyond or higher than the consciousness. – Mind and the soul [consciousness] are essentially one, as are the ocean and the waves. As long as illusion exists the separation exists. As long as separation exists duality will prevail as reality. So long the ignorance prevail, the birth, life, death and the world will remain as reality. But when one awaken into reality, all the reality of illusion cease forever.

Neither by Yoga, nor by scriptural studies, nor by action, nor by learning, but only by the realisation of one's identity with consciousness freedom is possible, and by no other means.

Lectures consisting of a shower of ornamental words, the skill in expounding the Scriptures or intellectual theories, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a little personal enjoyment to the scholar, but are no good for freedom.
The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.

The Scriptures consisting of many words are a dense forest which merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence one should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self, which is consciousness.

Most seekers have accepted some philosophy as truth or some teaching as truth. Just by studying teachings of Raman Maharshi and Nisargadutta Maharaja, but one has to find the obstacles in their teaching, which blocks one from realizing the truth. The truth is easier without any teaching. Mostly people are sentimentally and emotionally get involved with their teachings and blindly accept whatever said in those teaching and refuse to verify the facts. This sheepish mentality is greatest obstacle in pursuit of truth, because it makes one more and more egocentric, not soul centric.

In the scriptures, it says that the world is both real and unreal. It is real because it is a manifestation of consciousness, but is unreal, in the sense, that it is not absolute and eternal like consciousness itself.

Most of the teachers and thinkers approach was more practical, and they have stuck with the reality of the world, they took it as real.

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Sukant Ranjan
Feb 07, 2011 at 02:48 am
it was a fantastic reading. We should accept any thought by our own realization.Until we realize it, we can't understand it's base and essence. blindly believing a guru or a thought can satisfy a mind but not the soul.And the seekers still remains in illusion.A thought is not generated by anyone, one comes across it.So, let it come before us or seek for it conciously.we should not force ourselves to assimilate a thought just on the base that it is being said or promoted by a famous name or scriptures. otherwise accumulating thoughts without realization simply creates a kind of ego by scholarhood and leads us to the same illusion where one was before the accumulation.
Santthoshkumaar Kumaar
Feb 07, 2011 at 09:06 am
Dear Sukant Ranjanji,

Thank you for your comment and response.

Only when one finds whatever he has read and understood of any teaching and philosophies is inadequate or useless to quench his spiritual thirst then he tries to find it on his own. Buddha also rejected religion, scriptures concept of god when he found them useless to realize the ultimate truth. The truth pursuit is personal journey and a journey of verification of facts.

No teachings are required in pursuit of truth. Ultimate Truth has to be discovered ,assimilated and realized by deeper inquiry, analysis and reasoning. Ultimate Truth can be only found by through reason based on the soul as self. People throng to teaching and bookish knowledge , not to inquire, analyze and reason.

Many sounds a strong convictioned, and their knowledge is based only on the teachings and others opinions. They support their arguments with references from philosophical books or scriptures or the thoughts of the great thinkers. Seeker has to remember for every strong argument there will be a counter argument. The truth is always based on the formless; therefore, what is the use of arguing on the form based understanding, which is the cause of ignorance. In ignorance one ignores the Truth itself.

Those who get involved in intellectual debates, which are based on the form as self, will get only hallucinated realization based on speculation.

Many people think and discuss on the authors of the books or teacher. As seekers of truth one has to know where the author or teacher has got stuck in assimilating the self-knowledge for their own research. There is no need to criticize any authors and teacher. If one bases his reasoning on the soul as self then he will know how far they have reached in their understanding and assimilation of the non-dual truth.

The value of Self –Knowledge isn’t to be found in books. Those are just the external appearances of self; they're not the realization of “Self” as proof. If one realizes the “Self” then he realizes the formless substance of the mind, and he sees the truth in it. When the truth becomes apparent then it cuts off the stream of delusion. Their writings are pointers to truth, not truth-in-itself. That's why merely believing in their books is pointless.

“Some of the great thinkers think that, there is no difference between the ‘thinker’ and ‘thought’; the ‘observer’ and the ‘observed’ emphasizing the correlation between the internal and external worlds, for a complete understanding of Truth. This understanding would bring about a radical transformation of the mind, by the mutation in our brain cells and would change our perception of the world.”
But they fail to understand the thinker and the thought are part of the illusion or duality. There is neither thinker nor thought in reality. The thought will not rise without the form; therefore the thought will rise only when the physical self is present. The physical self is present only when the waking experience or dream is present. The waking or dream is present only when the mind is present. Therefore, there is a need to understand all these facts, before moving ahead in pursuit of truth.

When the self is not physical but is is formless, then there is no question of basing it on brain cells psychology because they are based on physical self. The physical self is false self . If thinker and thought of the dream and observer and observed of the dream disappears along with the dream. Same way the waking ‘thinker’ and ‘thought’; the ‘observer’ and the ‘observed’ disappears in deep sleep. It is not the waking entity which is aware of the coming and going of the three states. The formless witness of the three states is apart from the three states. The three states are unreal on the standpoint of the formless witness of the three states. And the formless witness is also the substance of the three states. Therefore, the one which is aware of the three states is not physical; therefore, question of mutation of brain cells does not arise.

Since the thinker and the thought exist with in the duality and thinker and the thought both are object to the formless witness. Therefore, one need to understand the fact that the subject [true self/spirit] is formless and the object is form [three states]. The subject and the object is one in essence because the object is created out of the formless subject.
Since, scientific inventions are based on the physical self and physical existence; there invention will not go beyond the physical existence. And they can only discover the truth of the fragments within the consciousness, not of the whole. Until and unless they discover the fact that, the self is not physical, their understanding will not go beyond physicality. When the self is not physical but it is the formless spirit, searching truth within the physical body or brain cells is of no use.

To assimilate the self-knowledge effectively, seeker needs to be receptive. He has to have patience and humility and allow the person to speak freely express himself about the Self-Knowledge, without hindrance or interruption. In return, seeker will receive free expression and then, try to grasp what he is saying. Seeker should not be judge on the base of his accumulated knowledge and simply argue on his own point of view. Seeker has to accept others views, if finds them un-contradictable truth.

Seeker has to verify the validity of all claims by using his own reason. Seeker has to get all the doubts cleared by questioning patiently, and point out all the doubts and confusion with humility. Argument is greatest obstacle in pursuit of truth, therefore never indulge in arguments. Therefore, discussion with humility is the way towards the ultimate truth. This will enable him to provide understanding and to see the fellow seekers perspective that is not to say that, he has to agree to their point of view, however it will offer or enable one to consider another option. And it helps seeker to think deeper when he is not satisfied with the answers and find answer on his own reasoning, till un- contradictable answer is found.

If one can truly understand “what is Mind”? “What is substance of the mind?” it would lead to resolving a lot of perhaps unnecessary trouble, and conflict.

If we look closely at the nature of the mind, what it is really, how it has come into being, and what constitutes it, then it will become clear of the fact that, mind is mere illusion; the formless substance and witness of the mind, which is the formless spirit, is real and eternal.