Thursday, February 21, 2013

Adyathmic discussion- 351

  • John LeKay The greatest obstacle in the path of surrender is egoism (ahamkaram) and Attachment or Possessiveness (mamakaram). This is ingrained in your personality since ages and its tentacles go deeper and deeper with the experience of every succeeding life. It can be removed only by the twin detergents of discrimination and ren...unciation. Devotion is the water to wash away this dirt of ages, and the soap of japam, dhyaanam and yoga (repetition of God's name, meditation and communion) will help to remove it quicker and more effectively. Slow and steady progress will surely win the race in this one; quicker means of travel can spell disaster. Proceed step by step in your spiritual practices - placing one steady step before you take the next. Do not waver or slide back two paces with one step forward. Cultivate deep faith - that will make your progress steady! -- Baba
  • Santthosh Kumaar Ignorance is the greatest obstacle in the pursuit of truth. 

    The dream ego, dream body and the dream world are reality within the dream but the dream is considered as falsehood when waking takes place. Similarly the waking ego, waking body and waking world are reality within the waking experience but the waking experience also becomes falsehood when wisdom dawns. 

    Wisdom dawns when the waking entity realizes it itself is not the self in the midst of waking experience. 
    Waking experience is state of ignorance. In the state ignorance one remains experiencing illusion as reality. Till illusion remains a reality, he will remain ignorant of the fact that, the cycle of birth, life and death are mere mirage. Therefore, it is not possible for one to accept the fact that, the world is illusion, till he becomes aware of the fact that , the self is neither the waking entity nor the self is dream entity but the self the formless soul or consciousness ,which is the  substance and witness of the three states. Therefore, for those who believe the waking entity as self, and refuse to accept the soul as true self, think that by getting rid of the ego by surrendering to their imaginary source is not the means to self-realization. the seeker  has to realize the fact that, one has to become aware of the existence of the formless witness of the three states, which is the soul, the innermost self. 

    The ego, body and the world appear together and they disappear together. The ego, body and the world are one in essence. 

    Waking entity is false self within the false experience whereas the self is birthless and deathless because self is formless. Thus surrendering with the false self within the false experience is bound to false surrender. The surrendering is a religious fable meant for the ignorant people. 

    Sage Sri, Sankara says: - VC-47 All the effects of ignorance, root and branch, are burnt down by the fire of knowledge, which arises from discrimination between these two—the Self and the not-Self.