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Satyam Sam Singh Who is worshiping who ??6 hours ago · · 1 person
Satyam Sam Singh Brother nobody is fool. Judging lead us to the darkness. ♥♥
6 hours ago · · 1 person
Subhashish Borah "We" worship the "self", the present self awarness is a product of Maya, so may be the "we" is very "ignarance"
6 hours ago · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar
Dear Subhashish ji, The body,ego and the world are product of ignorance. The guru, god , the devotee and the worship are reality within the waking experience. But the waking experience itself mere illusion created out of consciousness,w...See More
6 hours ago · · 3 people
Subhashish Borah Does it say that the concept of illusion itself is illusion?
6 hours ago · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar
Dear Subhashishji, When man and his experience of the world is mere illusion then whatever seen,known,believed and experienced as a person of the world is bound to be illusion. when the self is not the form then our judgment has to be base...See More
6 hours ago · · 2 people
Subhashish Borah What is 'physical shackle' dear Sunthosh Ji? Is it the gross physical or the subtle dimensions of being?
6 hours ago · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar
Dear Subhashishji, as a person everyone has the conviction that , he is an individual separate from the world and world existed prior to him and he is born in it afterwards. This is inborn samskara or conditioning is physical shackle,whic...See More
5 hours ago ·
Satyam Sam Singh Consciousness alone is real and ultimate truth or Brahman.
Thank You Santthosh Ji _/\_
5 hours ago · · 2 people
Subhashish Borah
So is nothingness the ultimate reality? What is the nature then of the distinction between the upanishadic qualitative "all" and the "none"? What is the validity of such a non-dualistic proposition if "all" is non-dualistically "non"? Becau...See More
5 hours ago · · 1 person
Satyam Sam Singh Consciousness alone is real and ultimate reality, truth or Brahman.
5 hours ago · · 2 people
Santthosh Kumaar
Dear Subhashishji, There is something which is aware of nothingness. The one which is aware of the the absence of the waking or dream is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity but is always apart and formless and eternal.the nothingness is the nature of the innermost self ,which is aware of coming and going of the three state. if there is nothing there has to be something to know there is nothing. What is it? The true Self is not perceptible to the senses. It is perceived by Reason. It is not perceptible as a thing with form and attributes. To those whose attention is fixed on the body and the world, it is very difficult to attain Self-knowledge. It is also very difficult for them to see the consciousness as self. The attention towards the universe [mind] should be lessened by realizing the self is not the body. The attention has to be focused on the formless substance and witness of the universe [mind] should be increased. So long as the attention is directed towards the universe, the experience of birth, life and death will prevail as reality. But when the attention is directed towards the formless substance and witness of the mind, the ignorance vanishes and the sense of reality of the duality will disappear. Then there is unity in diversity.
This subject is vast and it has to be grasped only through deeper self-search.
Upanishad say:
This Ataman cannot be attained by the study of the Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Ataman reveals Its own form. [Katha Upanishad Ch-II -23-P-20]
Mundaka Upanishad :-
This Ataman cannot be attained through study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor through much learning. He who chooses Ataman—by him alone is Ataman attained. It is Ataman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. [ 3 –page-70 Mundaka Upanishad Upanishads by Nikilanada]
When the Upanishads say:-
It is attained by him alone whom It chooses. To such a one Ataman reveals its own form. Then what is the use of indulging through our intelligence or our accumulated knowledge, when one is not chosen by the self, which is the soul, which is in the form of consciousness.
There is no need for any philosophy in pursuit of truth because they take the seeker nearer to truth but they create more doubts and confusions.
The scriptures and theories and teaching based on the ego are not the yardstick. Using them as yardstick to understand and assimilate the truth will lead one towards pursuit of arguments. Seeker of truth has to discover on his own, the truth of his true existence by inquiring “what is mind?” and “what is substance of the mind?” and move forward.
Kabir views humanity as being caught up in illusion, searching for Ultimate Reality in all the wrong places, always seeking It outside of ourselves in various rituals, temples, forests and mountaintops, not realizing That for which we seek is already hidden within us.
They alone in this world are endowed with the highest wisdom who are firm in their conviction of the sameness and birthlessness of Ataman. The ordinary man does not understand their way. [Chapter IV — Alatasanti Prakarana 95-P-188 in Upanishads by Nikilanada]
That is why Sri, Sankara says in VivekaChudamani :-
61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae) and medicines to such a one?
62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utter the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realisation one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.
63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the Self, how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman ? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.
64. Without killing one’s enemies, and possessing oneself of the splendour of the entire surrounding region, one cannot claim to be an emperor by merely saying, ‘I am an emperor’.
65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.
People who are yearning for spiritual truth will not find it through intellectual speculation and assumption. Intellectual truth is individual truth. And Religious truth is individual truth and it is not universal truth because the religion is based on individuality.
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Santthosh Kumaar Dear Subhashisji ,let us continue our discussion in the formless path Group.
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