Mind is not experiencer. Mind is an experience. Man and his experience of the world are within the waking experience. Same way as the dream man and dream world are experience within the dream experience. The dream appears as a whole, similarly waking also appears as a whole. The whole dream witnessed without the physical apparatus. Similarly the waking also is witnessed without the physical apparatus. The witness of the waking or dream is neither the waking entity nor dream entity because the dream entity was within the dream and waking entity is within the waking experience. Thus one which is aware of the coming and going of the waking or dream as a whole is formless consciousness ,which is the innermost self. And the innermost self is within the three states as their formless substance, and it is apart from the three states as their formless witness. It is apart from the the three states because it is not an entity or identity within the waking or dream. This truth has to be grasped mentally in order to have a mental yardstick 'what is truth' and ' what is untruth'.
Mind appears as waking or dream (duality)and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality). Man and his world are within the waking or dream. The waking experience is parallel dream. And dream is parallel waking experience. Thus trying to experience the truth as an individual is total impossibility. Thus the people who are trying to experience the self as in individual are in hallucination because self is not an individual it is universal. The mind is matter . If mind is matter than the whole universe is matter . If the universe is matter than the waking also is matter. The matter(universe) and spirit(consciousness) are one in essence because matter is mere mirage created out of spirit or consciousness.
The Self which is consciousness pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states(matter).
People who are expounding knowledge that self can be experienced as an individual are playing with the feelings and sentiments of the people and make them hallucinate and keep them permanently in the grip of hallucination. The non- dualistic truth has to be mentally traced and grasped, understood assimilated and realized by deeper self-search because it is hidden within the three states but it is beyond the three states.
That is why Sage Sri, Sankara indicated : - VC-65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.
66. Therefore the wise should, as in the case of disease and the like, personally strive by all the means in their power to be free from the bondage of repeated births and deaths.
The Seeker of truth has to direct realization of the true self, through deeper, inquiry, analysis and reasoning and avoid losing precious time and effort loosing himself in philosophical studies.
Both modern science and religion offer hypotheses and theories but there is one vital difference--science begins with facts which it collects; religion begins with fancies. Science evolves its hypotheses from such facts, religion from fancies.
Mind appears as waking or dream (duality)and disappears as deep sleep (non-duality). Man and his world are within the waking or dream. The waking experience is parallel dream. And dream is parallel waking experience. Thus trying to experience the truth as an individual is total impossibility. Thus the people who are trying to experience the self as in individual are in hallucination because self is not an individual it is universal. The mind is matter . If mind is matter than the whole universe is matter . If the universe is matter than the waking also is matter. The matter(universe) and spirit(consciousness) are one in essence because matter is mere mirage created out of spirit or consciousness.
The Self which is consciousness pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states(matter).
People who are expounding knowledge that self can be experienced as an individual are playing with the feelings and sentiments of the people and make them hallucinate and keep them permanently in the grip of hallucination. The non- dualistic truth has to be mentally traced and grasped, understood assimilated and realized by deeper self-search because it is hidden within the three states but it is beyond the three states.
That is why Sage Sri, Sankara indicated : - VC-65. As a treasure hidden underground requires (for its extraction) competent instruction, excavation, the removal of stones and other such things lying above it and (finally) grasping, but never comes out by being (merely) called out by name, so the transparent Truth of the self, which is hidden by Maya and its effects, is to be attained through the instructions of a knower of Brahman, followed by reflection, meditation and so forth, but not through perverted arguments.
66. Therefore the wise should, as in the case of disease and the like, personally strive by all the means in their power to be free from the bondage of repeated births and deaths.
The Seeker of truth has to direct realization of the true self, through deeper, inquiry, analysis and reasoning and avoid losing precious time and effort loosing himself in philosophical studies.
Both modern science and religion offer hypotheses and theories but there is one vital difference--science begins with facts which it collects; religion begins with fancies. Science evolves its hypotheses from such facts, religion from fancies.
Science declares that oxygen combines with hydrogen to give water. And
it also declares oxygen is protons or electrons. But in pursuit of truth the
whole physical existence [universe or mind] is considered as illusion and
science and their inventions, which are based on the physical existence is
limited to physical existence. The truth is within but it is beyond the
physical existence. The science demands physical proof. But the
physical proof is part of the illusion. Hence science cannot go beyond
physicality because the truth cannot be traced with laboratory conditions.
Deeper Inquiry, analysis and reasoning is required if one wants to
push its quest deeply enough.
Common people and primitive minds fall into faulty thinking through their inherited conditioning , such faulty thinking and reasoning makes them accept the experience of birth, life and death as reality ; taking what one sees through the senses as real, taking what is apparent obvious and superficial as true because it is less troublesome.
Many People adopt the attitude that what they know is truth. And what others say is false. This attitude makes them not to verify anything other then what they know. One needs to be rational, not merely logical. Logic is has its value only in physical plane.
As one advances towards spiritual plane he sees the logic underlying experience and becomes more rational. His reasoning is two-fold--implicit and explicit.
There is a need of facts of physical proof in scientific invention, whereas in pursuit of truth the proof has to be grasped mentally and realized. Therefore, the truth is realized only by few who take this mental pursuit. “Whatever facts revealed, which is un-contradictable has to be accepted as truth
The truth based on the formless soul/self is worthwhile; without it, one has something else, not truth. Most people refuse to venture into pursuit of truth; because they do not want to go into the root of things.
The seeker of truth has to study, inquire and reason in the beginning of the pursuit of truth, because it is absolutely necessary in pursuit of truth.
One has to know the true self is not physical but the formless spirit. The spirit or soul or the self is in the form of consciousness. Consciousness gives one the awareness of the three states.
The ignorance of the true self is the cause of experiencing the duality as reality. The ignorance vanishes through realization of the true Self, which is the soul or consciousness or spirit.
The true the Self does not lie in our body, in our brain, or our ego, but it is the essence of the dual and non-dual experiences, which comes and goes as waking dream and deep sleep.
Common people and primitive minds fall into faulty thinking through their inherited conditioning , such faulty thinking and reasoning makes them accept the experience of birth, life and death as reality ; taking what one sees through the senses as real, taking what is apparent obvious and superficial as true because it is less troublesome.
Many People adopt the attitude that what they know is truth. And what others say is false. This attitude makes them not to verify anything other then what they know. One needs to be rational, not merely logical. Logic is has its value only in physical plane.
As one advances towards spiritual plane he sees the logic underlying experience and becomes more rational. His reasoning is two-fold--implicit and explicit.
There is a need of facts of physical proof in scientific invention, whereas in pursuit of truth the proof has to be grasped mentally and realized. Therefore, the truth is realized only by few who take this mental pursuit. “Whatever facts revealed, which is un-contradictable has to be accepted as truth
The truth based on the formless soul/self is worthwhile; without it, one has something else, not truth. Most people refuse to venture into pursuit of truth; because they do not want to go into the root of things.
The seeker of truth has to study, inquire and reason in the beginning of the pursuit of truth, because it is absolutely necessary in pursuit of truth.
One has to know the true self is not physical but the formless spirit. The spirit or soul or the self is in the form of consciousness. Consciousness gives one the awareness of the three states.
The ignorance of the true self is the cause of experiencing the duality as reality. The ignorance vanishes through realization of the true Self, which is the soul or consciousness or spirit.
The true the Self does not lie in our body, in our brain, or our ego, but it is the essence of the dual and non-dual experiences, which comes and goes as waking dream and deep sleep.
The yearning of the mind for its
formless non-dual true nature is beyond form, time and space or beyond the
experience of the birth, life, death and the world. The seeker of truth only got preoccupied with
practical life within the practical world till now to quench this inner unknown
restlessness, not fully comprehending what he seeks.
The self cannot be experienced as an
individual because self is not an individual it is formless and universal. People think the pundit’s interpretation of
Upanishads and get stuck to the idea of experience as a touch stone. One has to
realize the self is not form but self is formless consciousness, is prior to
any experience. Experience implies duality.
Duality is mere illusion from ultimate standpoint. In reality experience and experiencer are
one in essence. Thus there is no second thing exists other than
consciousness. Hence it is non-dual.
Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood. There is neither individual nor his experience in reality. Man and his experience of the world cannot exist without waking experience. Whatever we are discussing, we are discussing within the waking experience. One has to know: whether physical body and the world are within the mind or the mind is within the physical body? The mind, physical body, ego and the world are present only, when the whole experience of the waking or dream is present. And mind is absent, when the waking or dream experience is absent. Thus one has to conclude the mind as the whole waking or dream experience. Thus the mind appears and disappears as waking or dream experience. All your arguments are truth only on the base of the ego, which is the false self, within the false experience (waking). The individual experiences within the waking are as real as dream.
Suppose the same subject, if we are discussing in the dream and one asks me the same questions in the dream, then whatever he said in dream becomes unreal, when the waking takes place. Whatever one saying now, he is saying within the waking experience. The waking is unreal on the base of the formless witness, which is Atman. Atman is in the form consciousness.
How does one see various objects, scenes and persons during dreams? If the dream is experienced without the physical body, then what is it that experiences the dream? Therefore, there must be a formless witness of the dream world. This formless witness is the same witness that is witnessed this Waking experience also. Therefore the Waking experience and dream both are witnessed by one and only formless witness of which the seeker is not aware of. Since he considers the physical body ( ego or waking entity) as the self or witness and views and judges the world-view on the standpoint of false self, within the false experience. The formless witness can exist with or without the waking or dream. But waking OR dream cease to exist, without the formless witness.
The gross Waking experience is merged into the mental experience in the sense that, when it is analyzed, it is found to exist inseparably in and as the mind alone. All "spiritual" planes are really mental: those who regard them as different or higher are deceiving themselves. The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly the waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. Therefore everything has to be grasped mentally, not argued on the intellectual point of view, which is limited to the false physical entity within the false experience.
The unreal is created out of real, and when one views and judges on the standpoint unreal (ego) then there is duality. When one is able to view and judge on the standpoint of real (Soul or consciousness, the innermost self) then there is only non -duality. Therefore, when the wisdom dawns then there is neither duality, nor non duality, only reality. This is my views and conviction.
All these confusion will go on, until man thinks, he is an individual and apart from the world, and the world existed prior to him and he is born in it afterwards. Therefore, it is necessary to know the fact the true self is not ego, but the true self is the soul, and stop viewing and judging the world-view on the standpoint of the physical self (ego), and one has to view and judge on the true self [soul or Atman] to realize the fact that, the world along with man is illusion. The formless substance from which the illusion is created is Atman. Thus Atman is Brahman or ultimate reality. Thus no second thing exists on the standpoint of Atman or consciousness as self. Thus there is neither experience nor the experiencer in non-dual reality but only non-dual Self-Awareness.
Experience belongs to individuality. And individuality is falsehood. There is neither individual nor his experience in reality. Man and his experience of the world cannot exist without waking experience. Whatever we are discussing, we are discussing within the waking experience. One has to know: whether physical body and the world are within the mind or the mind is within the physical body? The mind, physical body, ego and the world are present only, when the whole experience of the waking or dream is present. And mind is absent, when the waking or dream experience is absent. Thus one has to conclude the mind as the whole waking or dream experience. Thus the mind appears and disappears as waking or dream experience. All your arguments are truth only on the base of the ego, which is the false self, within the false experience (waking). The individual experiences within the waking are as real as dream.
Suppose the same subject, if we are discussing in the dream and one asks me the same questions in the dream, then whatever he said in dream becomes unreal, when the waking takes place. Whatever one saying now, he is saying within the waking experience. The waking is unreal on the base of the formless witness, which is Atman. Atman is in the form consciousness.
How does one see various objects, scenes and persons during dreams? If the dream is experienced without the physical body, then what is it that experiences the dream? Therefore, there must be a formless witness of the dream world. This formless witness is the same witness that is witnessed this Waking experience also. Therefore the Waking experience and dream both are witnessed by one and only formless witness of which the seeker is not aware of. Since he considers the physical body ( ego or waking entity) as the self or witness and views and judges the world-view on the standpoint of false self, within the false experience. The formless witness can exist with or without the waking or dream. But waking OR dream cease to exist, without the formless witness.
The gross Waking experience is merged into the mental experience in the sense that, when it is analyzed, it is found to exist inseparably in and as the mind alone. All "spiritual" planes are really mental: those who regard them as different or higher are deceiving themselves. The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place; similarly the waking becomes unreal when the wisdom dawns. Therefore everything has to be grasped mentally, not argued on the intellectual point of view, which is limited to the false physical entity within the false experience.
The unreal is created out of real, and when one views and judges on the standpoint unreal (ego) then there is duality. When one is able to view and judge on the standpoint of real (Soul or consciousness, the innermost self) then there is only non -duality. Therefore, when the wisdom dawns then there is neither duality, nor non duality, only reality. This is my views and conviction.
All these confusion will go on, until man thinks, he is an individual and apart from the world, and the world existed prior to him and he is born in it afterwards. Therefore, it is necessary to know the fact the true self is not ego, but the true self is the soul, and stop viewing and judging the world-view on the standpoint of the physical self (ego), and one has to view and judge on the true self [soul or Atman] to realize the fact that, the world along with man is illusion. The formless substance from which the illusion is created is Atman. Thus Atman is Brahman or ultimate reality. Thus no second thing exists on the standpoint of Atman or consciousness as self. Thus there is neither experience nor the experiencer in non-dual reality but only non-dual Self-Awareness.
