Aishwarya Lama I keep reading u mentioning the three states, Sir. Are they the body, mind and intellect. If u would kindly give an example of truth being behind falsehood, i will be grateful. Regards.4 hours ago via mobile ·
Santthosh Kumaar
Three states are waking,dream and deep sleep. The waking is parallel dream and dream is parallel waking experience. Mind means man +his experience of the world together . The mind(I) is present n the form of universe. Universe appears as waking or dream(duality) and it disappears as deep sleep(non-duality). the formless substance and witness of the three states is the formless soul. The formless soul is present in the form of consciousness. The formless substance and witness of the three states are one in essence. That essence is consciousness(soul). Thus the three states are one in essence. Therefore there is no second thing exists other than consciousness. Thus consciousness alone is real and all else is mere mirage created out of consciousness. thus consciousness (soul or Atman) alone is ultimate truth or Brahman.
4 hours ago · · 1
Santthosh Kumaar
The body ego and the world are within the mind. People think mind is within the body but body and the world are within the mind. If mind is there then only the body and the world are there. If mind is there than only the universe is there. If mind is there than only waking or dream is present. Thus it is necessary to know what is what to understand assimilate and realize the ultimate truth or Brahman. If one get stuck with body mind and intellect it leads to intellectuality. Intellectuality is limited to physicality. Physicality is limited to duality. Duality is is mere illusion from ultimate standpoint. Thus one has to drop all the accumulated knowledge and unlearn and what he has learnt in order acquire Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana.
4 hours ago · · 1
Aishwarya Lama This leaves me wondering as to how many are there to really know the formless self. Were the masters like Ramana n Nisargadatta self realised, knowing about the formless soul? Do u, Sir also know ur formless self? If yes then how did u drop all the knowledge u accumulated thru the years? I hope my queries r not bothersome. They come from an ajnani♥
3 hours ago via mobile ·
Santthosh Kumaar
Sri Ramana Maharishi Says: The self is fullness of consciousness. Therefore, there is nothing apart from it. Ramana would humorously say that if god were to be separate he would be self-less. As for Sadguru his individuality is dead. It is merged in the self like waves in the sea. so, he is the Self. The guru and god are not different for their essential nature as unlimited consciousness is the same. [Page-8 – Practical Guide To Know Yourself].
31 minutes ago · · 1
Santthosh Kumaar
We have to grow from the inside out. None can teach us, none can make us spiritual. There is no other guru but our own soul.”
Self-knowledge or Atma Gnana or Brahma Gnana cannot be attained by one who is without strength or earnestness or without the receptiveness and courage to accept the truth and reject the untruth. If a serious seeker strives sincerely by means of inquiry, analysis and soulcentric reasoning, he will be able to realize it.
It is only seekers sincerity and earnestness in his spiritual pursuit, the knowledge started revealing on its own. Anyone who has humility and patience and is sincere and ready to drop their accumulated dross and receptive to accept the truth will enter non-dual Self-Awareness when his conviction becomes firm.
27 minutes ago · · 1
Santthosh Kumaar Any one who claims he is self-realized than he is not self-realized. Upanishads say :-"He who thinks he knows, does not know." This means that to know anything implies a second, an object of knowledge, hence duality, i.e. no Gnana.
20 minutes ago · · 1
Santthosh Kumaar
Sri, Sankara's commentary:-
Page 489: "The knower of Brahman (self-realized or Gnani) wears no signs. Page 500 asks in effect "Tell us what you know, show it, and let us examine it under the mental microscope." It means we must bring notions and beliefs out of vagueness into clearness. It also criticizes the mystics who claim superior knowledge but who cannot communicate it for purposes of verification.
On page 482: On Gnani: "The knower of Brahman wears no signs. Gives up the insignia of a monk's life,…his signs are not manifest, nor his behavior."
Wednesday, July 18, 2012
Adyathmic Discussion-315
