Sunday, April 7, 2013

Adyathnic Discussion - 389




Trev Light Bown: - What about Orphanage in Nepal. Is that an illusion to you. What if old Santthosh was one of the children?

Suppose if you had asked the same question to me in your  dream that:-   The Nepal, its orphanage and the children  and you, I, others and the whole universe, which contains everything within  the dream becomes unreal when waking takes place.  

The dream  is created out of single stuff. similarly the waking and dream also created out of the same stuff. That   stuff is consciousness.  The single stuff is real the three states are  mere an illusion is created out of consciousness.

Dream become unreal when waking takes place. That means the dream entity, people within the dream and the dream world becomes unreal. Same way the waking entity and people within the waking experience and the waking world becomes unreal when wisdom dawns.

A person, who stamped his foot on the ground to refute to show the world, is real, ignore that in dream he would do exactly the same--stamp his dream foot on the ground and assert it to be real. 

 From the standpoint of the waking entity the universe is a reality from the standpoint of the soul, the innermost self, the universe is mere illusion created out of consciousness. When wisdom dawns then one realizes the whole universe is consciousness. The dualistic view is possible only in ignorance. At the dawn of Self-knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana there is only non-dualistic view in the midst of duality because the whole universe is consciousness. Thus all the contents of the universe are also consciousness. Thus form, time and space are mere illusion created out of consciousness. If the form time and space are consciousness than the experience birth, life and death also consciousness.   

Sri Sankara and Maya or illusion:- 
  
VlSHNUVARDHANA, the King of the Hoysalas, was a Vaishnavite and was greatly incensed at the doctrine taught by Sri, Sankara that everything here below is an illusion. He wanted to teach the exponent of this doctrine a lesson. So he invited the then Sri, Sankara to his palace. That holy man went there and stoutly maintained that everything in this world was illusion. The king had arranged to let loose an infuriated elephant against Sri, Sankara. The beast rushed at Sri, Sankara who took to a precipitate flight to save himself.

'Oh, Venerable Sir,' shouted the king, 'why do you run so fast seeing that the elephant is only an illusion?'

'Oh, king,' said Sri, Sankara in his course of his flight, 'my running too is an illusion. Everything in this world is an illusion.’

Similarly, we are unaware of the fact that we are within the illusion because we exist within the waking world.  The waking experience itself is an illusion.  Due to ignorance of the innermost self, the illusion is experienced as reality.

All our love and concern to humanity is reality within the illusion. A Gnani shows his love concern to humanity like any other human being.