Monday, December 5, 2011

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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Consciousness has no such thing as upper or lower (part), it has no inside or outside, it has no middle or any ‘across’, and it has no eastern or western direction, because it is all-pervading like space or pervades space also. It is one and without parts. It remains as the one self, free from all diversities.

    Consciousness is formless and colorless; it is not tiny, nor big. It is neither short nor long. It is not knowable since it is of the nature of effulgence. It remains as the one self, free from dualities.

    There is neither teacher nor teaching, neither student nor instruction, neither “Me” nor “you”, nor this universe. The knowledge of real nature of consciousness does not admit of different perceptions. It remains as the one auspicious self, free from all attributes.
    Consciousness, which is the true self, does not have the state of waking, nor of dream, nor of deep sleep. These three states are only the products of ignorance. Consciousness is beyond these three states and it remains as the one self, free from all states.

    Consciousness is all-pervading, is the desired goal, is self-existent, and is not dependent on anything else, while the entire universe which is different from it is unreal. Consciousness remains as the one self-free from all divisions.

    Consciousness is not one; how can there be a second different from it? It has neither absoluteness nor non-absoluteness. It is neither void nor non-void since it is devoid of duality. It cannot be described that which is the formless essence of the all the three states.

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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Neither the religious view, nor the yogic, nor the scientific view, nor the atheistic nor the intellectual view, etc., are tenable. Because of the realization of the part- less consciousness, ultimate truth is absolutely free from diversity. It always remains as the one self, free from all diversities when one is able to view from ultimate standpoint.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    In deep sleep there is neither birth, nor life, nor death, nor world, nor gods, nor is there total void, since consciousness alone exists as free from experience of waking or dream.
    The experience of birth, life, death and the world are based on the false self within the false experience. On the base of the false self and the false knowledge, the waking experience is experienced as reality. But when that false knowledge is not there, such notions also do not exist, as in the state of deep sleep.


    When the wisdom dawns than waking experience cease to be a reality, the dream ceases to be a reality; deep sleep ceases to be reality because there is no division in consciousness, because everything is consciousness. Thus three states are mere mirage created out of consciousness. Thus consciousness alone is all else is illusion.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    The division into castes and neither stages of life, nor the rules of conduct and duties of the various castes and stages of life apply to the false self within the false experience. Religion meditation or yoga rituals, scriptural studies and follow the spiritual laws are greatest obstacles in realizing the ultimate truth. Since the notions of ‘I’, ‘I Am’ and ‘Me’, ‘mine’ are of the false self within the false experience. If one is able to drop the identification with the ‘I’ or ‘I am’ then, the consciousness [true self] will remain free from experiencing the illusory duality as reality.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    In the deep sleep there is neither waking nor dream experience. The dream is parallel waking and waking is parallel dream. In the deep sleep experience the waking or dream too is dormant and consciousness alone is there. In deep sleep there is only non-dual tranquility and total ignorance of everything, as is proved by the fact that, when a person wakes up from sleep he or she says, “I slept deeply, I did not know anything”.

    This proves that the soul, which is in the form consciousness, exists in the deep sleep in its formless non-dual true nature. In deep sleep there is nothing but the consciousness in its own awareness. The waking or dream is only a mirage created out of consciousness. Due to ignorance the mirage is experienced as reality by the false self within the false experience. When self-knowledge arises, this ignorance is destroyed then the self, which is in the form of consciousness alone remains, which can never be negated.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Many people hold on to the concept that there is no such thing as soul because their teacher said so or some teaching said so or some scriptures say so. Thus they get stuck with the idea of no soul and remain as stagnant water dropping all the further investigation and trying to find answers for their shortcomings in their worldly life.

    Deeper investigation reveals the fact that, the individual self is limited to the waking entity or dream entity, is not the self, because the waking experience is also falsehood. Therefore, the self is the formless knower [witness] of the coming and going of the three states. And also it is the formless substance of the three states. Thus, the soul is in the form of consciousness, is the true self.

    Consciousness is devoid of all qualities and is neither a doer nor an experiencer. In ignorance it appears as waking experience or dream. And in deep sleep it remains in its formless non-dual true nature. Thus the one that appears as waking or dream and disappears as deep sleep is consciousness. Thus all the three states are consciousness because there is no second thing exists, other than consciousness.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    The view of materialists that there is no self or soul different from the body has to be rejected, because the consciousness itself is the soul, which pervades all the three states. Materialists do not accept the existence of a soul different from the body but how can they find the soul within the body when it pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states.

    All the confusion is because some thinkers’ people hold the physical body itself is the self, another that the sense organs are the self, yet another that the mind is the self. All these are rejected when one becomes aware of the fact that, the soul, which is in the form of consciousness as true self.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    “True Self” is neither five elements, nor any of the organs individually, nor all the elements or organs together as a whole. The body and universe exists within the waking or dream. Thus the body and the universe are limited to the waking or dream. The self is within the universe, which appears as waking or dream and disappears as deep sleep. It is within the waking or dream as their formless substance and it is without the waking or dream as their formless witness. If is within because the waking or dream are mere mirage created out of the self, which is in the form of consciousness. Thus forms and names within waking or dream have no value because the waking or dreams are mere mirage created out of the consciousness. The waking or dreams are impermanent whereas the formless substance and witness of the waking or dream are permanent.
    ‘Self ‘is beyond the waking or dream because it is neither the waking entity nor it is the dream entity. The self exists by itself only in deep sleep without the limitation of sense of form, time and space. The self is attribute- less, non-dual entity which alone prevails when all the three states are negated mentally.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Upanishads clearly declare:-

    Katha Upanishad 1:2:23 The Soul cannot be realized through hearing scholarly explanation of the discourses, not even by the intellect.
    Katha Upanishad 1:3:6 “Through the knowledge of the Soul, God, one is pure and clean constantly.” Neither by reading the book, nor by taking a bath at holy place has one become pure. Inner purity is possible when one remains in constant touch with the Soul. Constant Soul-Consciousness is the real purity.

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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    The one which is conscious of the body and the experience of the world is not the body but the consciousness, which is the inner most self.

    The relationship and love, hate happiness and misery of the practical life within the practical world are not connected to the soul [formless consciousness] which is his true self. The true self is beyond form, time and space and beyond birth, life, death and world.

    Thus rest in consciousness by recognizing it as our inner most self, which is god. And realize the practical life within the practical world is mere mirage created out of consciousness. Consciousness is ultimate truth and ultimate truth is God.

    Getting rid of the physical shackle is necessary to overcome the burden and bondage of the illusory samsara or practical world . Love and relationship seems reality in practical life within the practical world but they are mere illusion from ultimate standpoint. Thus the game of life is mere passing show.

    · · · 23 hours ago

  • Swami Avatara Ramaraaja Stone
    There are gifted prophets (who speak from the depths of themselves - what the God mind IS in its purest truth), who quote others - rarely - and who continue to pour forth jewels and precious pearls out of their mouths at an alarming rate........this is God's infinite flowing river that is flowing through every being, every bug, every bird's song......that flows easily and voraciously through a prophet's mouth......'an one who is not their own, but God's'....but few are able to recognize it or them...... This is how we know who is a prophet....Jesus, Buddha, Osho and others......speak from their own depths - with AUTHORITY -.....this is why we/you listen, there is something there that is fresh and authentic.

    What is important for the 'enlightened' being and burgeoning master is cultivating a worthy 'listening' ear....trained upon the spiritual truths of the Gnanas in order to move ahead on the path to mastery and bliss..... without a keen sense of recognizing truth, one will fall prey to anyone who quotes only, but can offer no real depth from within them that has the same 'authority' that these other master's/avatars have spoken with........I believe that Santthosh Kumarr is one such individual.....
    peace and blessings to all.....pranam......pranam.......♥
    Swami Avatara Ramaraaja Stone
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: The ignorance is the cause of experiencing all sorrow and calamities as reality
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      • Santthosh Kumaar Swamiji , I bow to the divinity within you. I admire all that you are doing for the humanity. I know it is all the inner work we all are illusory instrument of the inner lord. thank you so much. it is very kind of you . I appreciate all your divine mission helping and guiding the humanity.
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      • Swami Avatara Ramaraaja Stone Thank you, pranamsssssss.....♥
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: There is no use of arguing with those who are stuck up with their own idea of truth.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: It is not body alone that constitutes mind, but body plus world
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: The ‘I’ based accumulated knowledge is mother of all misunderstanding
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: Sri, Sankara said: world is unreal. He never said body is unreal. He would have said.
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  • Vasant Pahade
    Where there is Love, there is Oneness; and there can be no question of any particular religion or caste or system, superiority or inferiority, and touchability or untouchability. ------- AVATAR MEHER BABA
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: Is there a power beyond the brain?
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

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    Most people from the west think that Hinduism is a religion but it is not so. Th...See More

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      • Swami Avatara Ramaraaja Stone
        We are lucky to have you Santthosh. Your wisdom runs very deep and the world needs more like you....thank you for sharing this wisdom....we can all only impart so much and your eloquence does you much justice. I teach/would teach the same, ...See More

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    People who think themselves to be in a position to air their knowledge forget on...See More

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  • Swami Avatara Ramaraaja Stone
    We can speak of spirituality ALL DAY LONG, but if nothing is done about this ongoing problem in All countries, then we are all dead anyway...
    This is what is on my mind....it is dark, it is sad and they are OUR INDIGO'S, CRYSTALS AND RAINBOWS.....who are being abused every hour of the day, but especially in the night, when they are frightened the most.... I IMPLORE YOU, I HARANG YOU, I DEMAND THAT YOU HELP STOP THIS ABUSE.....all of our souls are at stake....NO QUARTER, NO MERCY FOR THOSE WHO HARM OUR PRECIOUS CHILDREN....What can YOU do to stop this outrage...
    http://espn.go.com/new-york/story/_/id/7286347/otl-audio-tape-syracuse-orange-assistant-bernie-fine-wife-admits-worries-abuse
    IF WE WERE GOOD, OUR CHILDREN WOULD SING THIS SONG...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJhsYmfFGzk


  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: When the seeker is ready than the guidance comes on its own.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: All modern age gurus, thinkers and approach is more practical, and they stuck with.
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    There is no need to follow anyone. If one wants Brahman follow the inner guru no...See More

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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: The body is within the world, the world is within the mind
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: Soul is the Source
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: The intense concentration required to grasp the non-dual truth is so fine and "sharp.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: A man may speak the truth that he saw god in his vision. But whether what he saw in.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar

    FORMLESS PATH: One realizes the ultimate Truth not through one’s deeds but by getting rid of ignoran
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Seekers of truth have to respect everyone’s views and wisdom without arguing but politely answering or keeping silence with others who try to cause disturbance with their egoic attitude. And never indulge condemning others who do not agree with each other’s view.
    Keeping internal [mental] distance with the people who indulge in perverted arguments and provokers is very much necessary in pursuit of truth. The inner calmness has to be gained which is very much necessary in pursuit of truth to move inward. –FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:58am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Devotional path, yogic path and path of love and humanity are meant for the practical life within the practical world and they are nothing to do with the path of truth or wisdom, because on the realm of truth the practical life and the practical world are mere illusion. Thus mixing them with path of truth or wisdom is like mixing oil into water.


    Intellectuality is based on individuality and individuality is egocentric. Thus the religious path, yogic path and intellectual path are great hindrance in pursuit of truth. -FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:54am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Lots of patience, humility is needed in pursuit of truth. Arguments on their point of view are the greatest hindrance in pursuit of truth. Thus holding any teacher and teaching or scriptures are the greatest hindrance in pursuit of truth.

    Egocentric yard stick based on the accumulated knowledge is the greatest hindrance in pursuit of truth. –FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:52am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    In reality the substance and witness are one in essence. The essence is consciousness and it is ultimate truth. The formless self is witness of the three states. And the formless witness is within the three states. And it is without the three states. And also it is apart from the three states. It is within the three states as their formless substance. And it is without the three states as their formless witness. And it is also apart from the three states because it not an entity or identity within the three states.—FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:49am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Universe appears as waking or dream and disappears as deep sleep. Holding sense of ‘I’ limited to the ego is cause of separation. It makes one feel, he is an individual separate from the world and world existed prior to him, and he is born in it afterwards. Until one has this conviction, it is very difficult to grasp the non-dual truth.


    Thus it is necessary to realize the self is neither the ego nor the world but is the witness of the ego, body and world together. The true self is formless witness of the three states. And it is also the formless substance of the three states, because without self the three states are non-existent. – FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:48am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Seeker has to grow from the inside out by soulcentric reasoning. None can teach him none can make him to reach the ultimate end. There is no other guru but the formless consciousness, which the innermost self.
    Mind is in the form of universe. Man is with in the world. Man is the physical entity within the universe. Universe appears as waking or dream. Dream is parallel waking and waking is parallel dream. The formless witness of the mind or universe or waking is real and eternal. The formless witness itself is the formless substance of the three states. ---FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:45am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Mind appears due to ignorance. Without ignorance the mind ceases to exist. Thus mind is in the form of universe and appears as waking or dream. The waking or dream is state of duality. Thus seeker has to hold wherever there is duality there is ignorance. If duality is considered as reality than the experience of birth, life, death and the world is considered as reality. If experience birth, life, death and the world is considered as reality than the form, time and space is becomes a reality. If form, time and space is becomes reality as reality than there is diversity in unity. To bring back the unity in diversity, one has to put the ego in to reverse gear until it reaches the ultimate end or source from where mind rises and subsides. –FORMLESS –PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:43am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    There is no other guru but the formless consciousness, which the innermost self.

    If someone has acquired self-knowledge and shares his acquired knowledge with others, they cannot say that there is nothing for them to do. Everyone has to discover a fresh for himself by verifying all the facts. Each one has to grasp assimilate and realize it until he gets firm conviction of the ultimate truth or Brahman. --FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:41am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    When formless consciousness, is the innermost self, which pervades in everything and everywhere in all the three states, what value the theoretical philosophies and scientific inventions which are based on individual intellectuality will have.

    The consciousness is ultimate truth or Brahman. Consciousness is ground of the universe, the consciousness is the first cause of the universe and it itself is uncaused.

    Ultimate truth cannot be defined in positive terms because any definition would mean limitation. One has to realize the fact that, the universe and all its contents are mere mirage created out of consciousness. That means the mind and the soul, which is the innermost self are one in essence.
    -FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:39am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    What is the use of thinking of the heaven and hell when the self is not an individual and it is never born and never dies?
    -FORMLESS PATH

    · · · Saturday at 7:36am

  • Santthosh Kumaar
    In the scientific field knowledge one can bank on discoveries of different scientists. Newton discovered the law of gravity and Einstein formulated the principle of relativity. And scientists take it for granted that these principles are valid. It is not so in pursuit of truth. If one sage discovers the ultimate truth, it cannot be accepted blindly by the seeker without verification. Seeker has to discover a fresh on his own to realize’ what is truth’ and ‘what is not truth’ and accept only the truth and mentally drop the untruth . Thus constant reflection on the subject is very much necessary in pursuit of truth. -Formless Path

    · · · Saturday at 7:35am

  • David Nye
    TAITTIRÎYAKA-UPANISHAD.
    FOURTH ANUVÂKA.
    1. May he 1 who is the strong bull of the Vedas, assuming all forms, who has risen from the Vedas, from the Immortal, may that Indra (lord) strengthen me with wisdom! May I, O God, become an upholder of the Immortal!

    May my body be able, my tongue sweet, may I hear much with my ears! Thou (Om) art the shrine (of Brahman), covered by wisdom. Guard what I have learnt 2.
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    · · · Saturday at 6:22am

  • David Nye
    From the unreal lead me to the real!
    From darkness lead me to light!
    From death lead me to immortality!
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Brihadaranyaka Upanishad says: - In that unitive state there is neither father nor mother, neither worlds nor gods nor even Scriptures. In that state there is neither thief nor slayer, neither low caste nor high, neither Monk nor ascetic. The Self is beyond good and evil, beyond all the suffering of the human Heart.

    · · · Friday at 7:36pm
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    In Sutra Bashya and Mandukya it is given that Samadhi and sleep are identical. And Brihad Upanishad does not advocate Samadhi.

    It is not possible to stop thought for more than a half-second whilst in the waking experience. If one succeeds in controlling thought and then banishes it, one passes into Yogic Samadhi, which is identical with deep sleep. The only difference between ordinary deep sleep and Samadhi therefore is that the ordinary man falls asleep involuntarily whereas the yogi has the satisfaction of knowing that he has passed into sleep by his own effort of will in banishing thoughts.

    · · · Friday at 6:50pm
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.Upanishad declare that:- The Soul cannot be realized through hearing scholarly explanation of the discourses, not even by the intellect.

Santthosh Kumaar
Upanishads clearly declare:-

Katha Upanishad 1:2:23 The Soul cannot be realized through hearing scholarly explanation of the discourses, not even by the intellect.
Katha Upanishad 1:3:6 “Through the knowledge of the Soul, God, one is pure and clean constantly.” Neither by reading the book, nor by taking a bath at holy place has one become pure. Inner purity is possible when one remains in constant touch with the Soul. Constant Soul-Consciousness is the real purity.

Kena Upanishad 2:4 When it is known through every state of cognition, it is rightly known, for (by such knowledge) one attains life eternal. Through one's own self one gains power and through wisdom one gains immortality.

Kena Upanishad 2:5
If here one knows it, then there is truth, and if here one knows it not, there is a great loss. Hence, seeing the Real in all beings, wise men become immortal on departing from this world.

Mundaka Upanishad 1:2:8
“Remaining in the fold of ignorance and thinking “we are extremely wise and learned,” the fools with boastful nature ramble about like the blind led by the blind alone.”

Mundaka Upanishad 3:2:3
“The weak and timid cannot realize the Self. Self-Realization is not possible through intellect or hearing spiritual discourse. One who welcomes God in every activity, through a thorough controlled and disciplined life, to him also the Soul is revealed."
Mundaka Upanishad 3:2:3

The Soul cannot be realized by the weak and timid.

That is why Sri, Sankara says in Viveka Chudamani:-

56. Neither by Yoga, nor by Sankhya, nor by work, nor by learning, but by the realisation of one's identity with Brahman is Liberation possible, and by no other means.
58. Loud speech consisting of a shower of words, the skill in expounding the Scriptures, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a little personal enjoyment to the scholar, but are no good for Liberation.

59. The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.
60. The Scriptures consisting of many words are a dense forest which merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence men of wisdom should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self.

61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae) and medicines to such a one?

62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utter the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realisation one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.

63. Without causing the objective universe to vanish and without knowing the truth of the Self, how is one to achieve Liberation by the mere utterance of the word Brahman ? — It would result merely in an effort of speech.

64. Without killing one’s enemies, and possessing oneself of the splendour of the entire surrounding region, one cannot claim to be an emperor by merely saying, ‘I am an emperor’.

Until one knows the truth of his true existence, whatever he knows about god is mere belief. Belief is individual whereas the ultimate truth is universal every belief system has its own idea of god thus there is no universality in the belief system.

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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    All accumulated knowledge is mental garbage. Holding this mental garbage blocks realization of ultimate truth or Brahman.

    That is why Sri, Sankara [ V C] indicated that:-

    56. Neither by Yoga, nor by Sankhya, nor by work, nor by learning, but by the realisation of one's identity with Brahman is Liberation possible, and by no other means.
    58. Loud speech consisting of a shower of words, the skill in expounding the Scriptures, and likewise erudition - these merely bring on a little personal enjoyment to the scholar, but are no good for Liberation.

    59. The study of the Scriptures is useless so long as the highest Truth is unknown, and it is equally useless when the highest Truth has already been known.

    60. The Scriptures consisting of many words are a dense forest which merely causes the mind to ramble. Hence men of wisdom should earnestly set about knowing the true nature of the Self.

    61. For one who has been bitten by the serpent of Ignorance, the only remedy is the knowledge of Brahman. Of what avail are the Vedas and (other) Scriptures, Mantras (sacred formulae) and medicines to such a one?

    62. A disease does not leave off if one simply utter the name of the medicine, without taking it; (similarly) without direct realisation one cannot be liberated by the mere utterance of the word Brahman.

    Holding some teacher or teaching as yardstick and trying to prove that he is right and others are wrong and indulging in perverse argument will help to unfold the mystery of the mind. Seeker has to learn to view and judge on the standpoint of formless witness/soul/self. Then he will be never having any doubts and confusion. When one thinks deeply then only the inner revelation starts and start burning the dross [confusion/doubts].

    Seeker will have enough material stored in his subconscious by reading F.P BLOGS; all will start yielding fruits and start revealing, when he stars thinking very deeply.

    F.P blogs are not teaching, they are only sign post for those who are seriously seeking truth. This is the inner process every serious seeker experiences. The inner dialogue will start and he will start getting answers from inner core of his existence.

    Every teaching has to be thoroughly verified through deeper discrimination. If the teaching is egocentric than drop it as useless. If it is purely soul- centric than accept it as truth. If it is mixed with both then also it has to be dropped. –FORMLESS PATH
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      • Dennis Whelan Jai Formless Path . Jai Sri Shankara . Jai Self Realization Awareness of True Identity .
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      • Santthosh Kumaar small correction:- one word[not] is missed - please read as :- Hollding some teacher or teaching as yardstick and trying to prove that he is right and others are wrong and indulge in perverse argument will" NOT " help to unfold the mystery of the mind.
        6 hours ago ·
      • Santthosh Kumaar Thank you dear Dennis Whelan: Sage , Sri , Sankara' declared Advaitic truth 1400 years back. Advaitic or non-dualistic truth is rational truth, scientific truth and ultimate truth.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    The attributeless consciousness is impersonal and pure. Consciousness becomes a personal or attributed consciousness only through its association with illusion, which appears in the form of mind or universe or waking or dream.


    Attributed consciousness and attributeless consciousness are not two different consciousnesses. Attributeless consciousness is not the contrast, antithesis or opposite of attributed consciousness. The same attributeless consciousness appears as attributed consciousness. The mind and the soul are one in essence. The essence is consciousness. Thus consciousness is second to none.

    The attributed consciousness appears in the form of mind. Mind is in the form of universe. And universe appears as waking or dream. Thus Mind, universe, waking or dream are one and the same thing.

    The universe is reality on the standpoint of the waking entity. The universe is unreal on the standpoint of the Ataman, which is attributeless consciousness. –FORMLESS PATH
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    Consciousness is second to none. Consciousness is not another. Consciousness is all-full, infinite, changeless, self-existent, self-delight, self-knowledge and Awareness. Consciousness is essence. Consciousness is the formless knower of all that is known. Consciousness is the formless Seer and the Seen. Consciousness is transcendent and formless Witness. Consciousness is impersonal and without attributes, formless, without special characteristics, immutable, eternal and non-agent. Consciousness is above all needs and desires. It is always the Witnessing Subject. It can never become an object as it is beyond the reach of from, time and space. Consciousness is non-dual, one without a second. It has no second thing beside it. Consciousness is destitute of difference, either external or internal. Consciousness cannot be described, because description implies distinction. Consciousness cannot be distinguished from any other than it. In consciousness, there is not the distinction of substance and attribute.

    Awareness is the very essence of consciousness, is ultimate truth or Brahman. – FORMLESS PATH
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    A Gnani is one who attains the non dual tranquility in the midst of duality. A Gnani is in self –awareness and he is fully aware of the fact that the form, time and space are mere mirage created out of consciousness.


    They alone in this world are endowed with the highest wisdom who are firm in their conviction of the sameness and birthlessness of Ataman. The ordinary man does not understand their way. [Chapter IV — Alatasanti Prakarana 95-P-188 in Upanishads by Nikilanada]

    This passage indicates the fact that everything is Atman/spirit. The one who views and judges the worldview on the base of his birth /body will not realize the fact that, the man including the world is created sustained and finally dissolves as Atman. Thus Atman alone is, and all else is mirage.

    Thus self-knowledge is the aim of every human being. Since everyone thinks the physical body is the self, their aim is misdirected and they focus their attention on materiality which makes one feel the duality [waking] as reality.

    In pursuit of truth the ultimate truth has to be proved, not assumed. Pundits who take scriptures for granted are not Gnanis.

    Pundits teach that all is your-self, but none of them can show that this is so, none has analysed it scientifically, and none can prove it. Rational proof is needed, so that one arrive at knowing truth i.e. wisdom; punditry is mere dogma, parrotism, repetition of what they read in scripture. Scripters are not yardstick and scriptural truth is not proof. Pundits take scriptures as authority. Authoritarianism merely assumes as true what another says, but what has yet to be proved.

    Pundits have to test truth in this world not in the next world. There is no proof other than blind belief based on the scriptures, belief is not truth. So, doctrines are not the means to realize the ultimate truth. There is no need to follow them.
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  • Santthosh Kumaar
    As Sri, Sankara says: When the whole universe, movable and immovable, is known to be Atman, and thus the existence of everything else is negated, where is then any room to say that the body is Atman.
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    If body is not the Atman/self, then the karma theory has no meaning on the standpoint of the truth. Thus no second thing exists other than Ataman, therefore why to view the worldview on the standpoint of the body as self [I] when the body [I] is the false self, and the soul/Atman is the true self.

    If body is not the self, then the birth, life, death and the universe are bound to be illusion. If birth, life and death are illusion then all conducts actions and their fruits are mere illusion. If body is not the self, then the existence of god, heaven and hell is mere illusion. If body is not the self then all religious beliefs of god is mere illusion. If body is not the self but the Ataman [soul] which is in the form of consciousness is the true self, then there is no scope for second thing other than consciousness, therefore consciousness, which is Ataman is Brahman or ultimate truth. The Brahman alone is real and eternal. Thus whatever is real eternal has to be identified as god. To identify the real and eternal, one has to overcome the ignorance caused by the illusion. To overcome the ignorance one has to acquire the Self-Knowledge.

    The individual experience within the dream is reality with in the dream. Therefore waking reality is also is reality within the waking. This waking is parallel dream and dream is parallel waking. Only when self-wakes up in waking the dream becomes unreal. When the self-consciously wakes up in its formless non-dual true nature in the midst of waking experience then all the three states are mere mirage created out of its formless non-dual true nature.

    The form time and space within the dream are falsehood when waking takes place. Similarly the form, time and space of the waking are also falsehood when wisdom dawns. The wisdom dawns only when one realize the self is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity. Thus it is erroneous to judge and reason and conclude the ultimate truth on the base of waking entity and waking world because waking experience itself is illusion. –FORMLESS PATH
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  • Santthosh Kumaarposted toBeth Collier
    To, My dearest sister Beth - with love
    FORMLESS PATH: Self-Realization is Truth -Realization. Truth- Realization is God -Realization.
    sunthosh-formlesspath.blogspot.com
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      • Beth Collier whew what a good read. Thank you Santthosh. Gratefully received ♥
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