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Pranam BhaiJan ! Accepted ! Wish you have pleasant time as well.
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Thank you Jesus Manji, thank you for your soothing words and appreciation. have blissful weekend.
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Nateshji, Deeper self-search revels the fact hat, He who has
realized the ultimate truth or Brahman transcends the duality or mind
where he sees no second thing other than consciousness. Yogi who sees
the universe as reality may try to deny it because he thinks
thoughtlessness is Brahman. The yogi sees the universe as a second
thing and he wants to banish the universe in Samadhi, because he does
not know that in non-duality there is no need to deny the universe. But
he has to realize the fact that, universe is not something different
from the self, which consciousness. Those who cannot grasp and realize
this position, misunderstand it, and wrongly hold it be yogic Samadhi
where there is only blankness.
Sri, Sankara says in VivekaChudamani 56. Neither by Yoga, nor by Sankhya, nor by work, nor by learning, but by the realization of one's identity with Brahman is Liberation possible, and by no other means. The presence of the universe is no obstacle to Gnani‘s realization; he does not need yogic Samadhi. But yogi has imagined Brahman as blankness or thoughtlessness thus he is still in the grip of duality. Thus Yogis Brahman is but a thought. Brahman is not a thought but Brahman is prior to any mind or universe. Thus one has to know what is prior to waking experience. The yogi who wrongly thinks there is Brahman to be got ,may attempt to do so, and may think he sees it, but all the time he under the delusion of duality because he bases his- self on physical body, thinking Brahman to be something different from the soul, which is the true self. When one becomes aware of the fact all the experiences of the three states and all the thoughts and words are Mind and mind in turn is consciousness then he has transcended thinking faculty. The ordinary yogi follows yoga, wants to sit in a place and think "I’ am shutting my eyes, ‘I’ am sitting this posture, I am sitting in this cave, ‘I’ am meditating." This egoistic yoga has nothing to do with Gnana. [This has been pointed out even in Mandukya Upanishad - p.229-30] Sankara says [page 132-133 of his commentary on Brihadaranyakopanishad]:- Yoga is not the means of liberation. If one is seeking truth but practicing yoga or Kundalini or any other practice for long years and finding them inadequate and useless quenching his inner thirst has to drop them by realizing they are only useful in preparatory stages to make them more receptive to grasp the ultimate truth and they cannot transport them to ultimate end. Seeker has to follow up his deeper self-search and get rid of the inborn samskara or conditioning, which is present as ‘I’ or ‘I AM’. There is no need of buying reading material or hearing the sermons and running to one place to another or one guru to another or surrendering to any guru or glorifying any guru in order to acquire self-knowledge. In success or failure or gain or loss, in society or in solitude there is no difference to the Gnani because for him everything is mirage created out of consciousness. Where is performance of ritualistic or meritorious work, where is worldly wealth, where is sense of enjoyment or discrimination has no significance for the Gnani who has transcended such dual notions such as ‘this is to be done and this no to be done. The one who risen to Gnana is liberated from experiencing the birth, life, death and the world as reality, while living in the midst of world before his physical death. There is no delusion, there is no universe there is no need of renunciation or meditation there is no desire for liberation for the Gnani who is resting in consciousness by realizing everything is consciousness and no second thing exists other than consciousness. What is the state of the ego or physical self when it has realized that the self is not the body? Such souls have attained their pristine condition. “Self” is not visible to the physical eyes. “Self” is not to be found in the world as a thing, entity or an object. Self is above these, has neither beginning nor ending. A visible object has a beginning and an ending. Since the soul, which is in the form of consciousness is invisible to the physical eye; soul or consciousness is without beginning and ending. Soul is always constant. Just as space is homogeneous everywhere, so is the consciousness is the same everywhere. There is no need to renounce anything within the illusion because as it has appeared it disappears when the wisdom dawns in the midst of waking experience or on its own as in deep sleep or in death. . The nature of the self is not something to be acquired by effort; and it characteristics is to be free from misery; and happiness inseparable from it. |
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A Gnani is beyond yogic Samadhi and distraction and he does not
practice meditation , he is neither an aspirant for liberation nor he is
in bondage of duality . Having known the universe to be mere mirage
even though he sees it, he is in awareness of the inner most formless
self "
how is it possible that a gnani can be beyond samadhi and meditation and many other descriptions above... ?!!? what exactly is samadhi and what is its experience, how is it different from what a gnani is experiencing... |
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I like your philosophy Sir ! Thank you for kind & nice posting, Namaste ! Serene time.
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Aachharam Brahman ! Word is God !
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A Gnani is neither a sanyasi, nor a swami nor guru nor pundit nor religious scholar nor devotee.
Ritualistic or meritorious work [Dharma], desire of sensual and all sorts of enjoyment [Kama] and worldly prosperity [Artha] are reality within the false experience. Discrimination has no significances for the Gnani who has transcended such dualistic notions because for him the whole universe is consciousness, which is ultimate truth or Brahman. The Gnani who is liberated from dualistic notions while living in practical life within the practical world is fully aware what truth is and what is untruth. His actions in the practical world pertain to practical life. Though he seems to be attached and performing all the duties of the practical life in physical plane but he is internally detached of it because he is fully aware of the fact that his practical life within the practical world are mere mirage created out of consciousness. In ignorance the experience of the practical life within the practical world is reality. When the ignorance vanishes through wisdom the practical life within the practical world is mere mirage. Thus the wisdom is the only means to get rid of ignorance. For a seeker who has risen to Gnana or wisdom: where is the delusion, where is universe, where is the meditation on the self or where is liberation for the one who is resting in the tranquility of the innermost self, which is formless consciousness or Brahman. Until one has the conviction the mind is within the body and he is an individual and the universe is separate from him then the non-dual wisdom or Advaitic Gnana is impossibility. Until one has the conviction God is an individual entity and he is an individual separate from the universe and the universe existed prior to him and he is born in it afterwards than he is stuck to the reality of the experience of the birth, life, death and the universe. Until he has the conviction that the experience of the birth, life, death and the universe as reality the non-dual wisdom or Advaitic Gnana is impossibility because he cannot think beyond form, time and space. Until one has the conviction that form, time and space as reality he sees the universe as a second thing. The yogi also thinks he is and individual separate from the world and he limits his self to his physical body alone and enters the Samadhi and thinks the thoughtlessness is state of Brahman. As soon as he comes out of Samadhi he is again sees the universe as second thing. Thus for the yogi duality prevails and the yogic blankness or Samadhi is not wisdom. Those who cannot grasp this position mistake the yogic Samadhi, where the universe is not seen, which is mere blankness and people wrongly hold it to be non-dual self-awareness. The self-awareness has to be got in the midst of the waking experience. The presence of universe is no obstacle to Gnani’s realization; he does not need yogic Samadhi. Gnani transcended all the three states and sees no second thing even though he is in the midst of waking [duality] because he is fully aware of the fact that, all the three states as consciousness. Therefore there no second thing exists for him. There is no experience is non-dual reality or Brahman. The experience implies duality. Wherever there is experience there is duality. Duality is always falsehood. The yogi who wrongly thinks there is a Brahman to be got and he attempt to get is from his yogic Samadhi and he sees the Brahman in his Samadhi, but all the time he is under the delusion of duality, thinking Brahman to be something different. When one say all the three states are only consciousness then he has transcended the experience of the three states. Who sees the waking or universe as reality will not be able to grasp the non-dual truth, which is within the frame of form, time and space but it is beyond the frame of form, time and space. The experience of practical life within the practical world is nothing to do with the formless self because the self is not waking entity. Thus there is no need to renounce the world in order to understand assimilate and realize the non-dual truth but one has to get rid of ignorance through wisdom. A Gnani is neither a sanyasi, nor a swami nor guru nor pundit nor religious scholar nor devotee. A Gnani lives like any other householder. He indulges in his regular worldly activates without showing off as a Gnani. Others cannot detect him merely by appearance. He does not want show off that he is different from others. He inspires others by showing the inner path not as a guru but as fellow seeker. A Gnani is one who is beyond existence and non-existence, who is wise and satisfied, and free from experiencing the duality as reality, does nothing even if he may be indulging in worldly activities in the eyes of other people. A Gnani lives on peacefully doing what comes to him to be done, does not feel troubled either in activity or inactivity. He accepts the circumstances of life as they come good or bad and sees them as passing show. Activity and inactivity both are same to him and both will be practiced at appropriate times. A Gnani is beyond yogic Samadhi and distraction and he does not practice meditation , he is neither an aspirant for liberation nor he is in bondage of duality . Having known the universe to be mere mirage even though he sees it, he is in awareness of the inner most formless self. Gnani knows the waking entity and waking world are mere illusion. The wisdom makes him view the waking experience as a whole. Even though he is within the waking experience he witnesses it without the physical apparatus. Just as, the dream is witnessed as whole, without the physical apparatus, same way the waking also is witnessed as whole without the physical apparatus. Thus one has to realize the fact that, self is neither the waking entity nor the self is dream entity, but the self is that witnesses, the coming and going of the waking or dream, without the physical apparatus. Until one holds the waking entity as witness or the ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ as witness, it becomes difficult get rid of ignorance. Because ‘I’ or ‘I AM itself is ignorance. Until ignorance is there the duality will prevail as reality. The waking entity is within the waking experience. The dream entity is within the dream. The ‘I’ or ‘I AM’ exists only when waking or dream is present and they are absent when waking or dream is absent. The one which witnesses coming and going of the three states, is neither waking entity nor the dream entity. Thus the witness is within the three states but it is apart from the three states. It is within the three states because it is also the formless substance of the three states. It is apart from the three states because it is not an identity or entity or thing within the three states. Thus the self is within the three states but it is without the three states and it is ever formless. Until the inborn ignorance or samskara or conditioning which is ‘I’ ‘I AM’ is there the unreality will prevail as reality. Once the inborn samskara is destroyed by the wisdom then the experience of the birth, life, death and the world are mere illusion. That is freedom or Mukthi from experiencing the birth, life, death and the world as reality. Only in self-awareness the consciousness prevails without the experience of the birth, life, death and the world is ultimate truth or Brahman. When the self is in its own awareness the reality of mind or universe is mere mirage created out of consciousness. Thus one has to know the universe as consciousness in order to find freedom from experiencing the illusion of birth, life, death and the world as reality. A Gnani lives within the world as person but he is fully aware of the fact that, the inner most self is without the body and without the world or without the waking or without the dream. Thus the inner most self is naked without the universe or mind. Both Duality and non-duality are merely words and words belong to duality, words cannot reach the true self, which is consciousness or ultimate truth or Brahman because the consciousness is prior to experience, thoughts and words. Experience, thoughts and words are made of single stuff ,which is consciousness. |
