Santthosh Kumaar Dig within to realize there no cemetery , no body to bury , no grave to dig by realizing our body and our experience of the world too are mere mirage created out of formless consciousness,which is our inner most self. when one takes the 'I' as self then the practical life within the practical world is reality. What you say is true only on the standpoint of the ego or waking entity. thus there is need to realize the waking entity or ego is not the self to know 'what is truth and what is untruth.Friday at 11:17am · · 1 person
Tarun Patwal Seeking is the Ultimate shelter for ego to hide behind............which when falls thorugh GRACE.......Truth shines in ALL glory
Friday at 11:28am ·
Santthosh Kumaar The self has a urge to seek only in ignorance and when it realizes its true nature is without the body, ego and the world, then it enters into awareness of its own formless non-dual true nature and finds freedom from experincing the illusion as reality.
Friday at 11:44am · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar We are seeking within the illusion. The seeker and seeking and the urge are part of the illusion. Thus it is necessary to know, how our body and our experience of the world are illusion. And on what standpoint they are illusion, to realize our true existence is without form,time and space.
Friday at 11:55am · · 1 person
Tarun Patwal Seeing through its own falsity & falsity of seeking , ego may give in and peace may prevail for good..........
Friday at 12:12pm ·
Santthosh Kumaar How can one get rid of the ego with ego, when ego ,body and the world appear together and disappear together. There is a need to understand the ego,body and world are one in essence. If the ego is there than the body and the world are there. If body is there than the ego and the world are there. If world is there than the body and ego are there. If one of these ceases to exist other two also don not exist. Each one is dependent on one another. Therefore, to realize the falsity of ego, body and the world , it is necessary to trace the source from where they rise together and subsides together
Friday at 1:09pm · · 2 people
Ashwani Kumar Dhir When body gets inoperative the ego gets terminated thus world has no meaning for the dead body. Hence world & ego are conditional as long as body is there. A.K.Dhir.
Friday at 1:34pm · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar The birth,life and death takes place within the waking experience,which is mere illusion from ultimate standpoint. If the death takes place in the dream , the dream becomes unreal when waking takes place. Similarly the waking becomes unreal when non-dual wisdom dawns. Deeper self-search revels the fact that the self is neither the waking entity nor the dream entity but the formless witness of the three states. The formless witness itself is the substance of the three states. Thus the formless substance and witness are one in essence. And that essence is consciousness ,which is inner most self. Thus our body,ego and the world are mere mirage created out of formless consciousness ,which is the ultimate truth or Brahman. There is no second thing exist other than consciousness in illusory diversity.
Friday at 1:51pm · · 1 person
Trevor Light Bown So Awareness is consciousness awakening to it self. The universe and all that is matter duality is also consciousness. Yet the brain in form as a thinking person imagines this matter world according to conditioned beliefs and accumulated knowledge.
So when you say the world is mirage or illusion, what you mean is according to the person who is seeing it through the brain/ thoughts/ accumilated knowledge. This universe is a matter of fact for this dimension of consciousness you are now at. There are multy levels of consciousness that are invisible to our eyes. But a seeker will never look God in the eyes because your view is that witness observing consciousness when the attic/ mind / ego is clear / clean / empty / silent / still. .......Nothingness/ void non-dual/ whole/ one without a second.
Friday at 3:37pm ·
Tarun Patwal Birth takes place of the concept "I am" and same is stripped away at Death.........
Friday at 3:58pm ·
Santthosh Kumaar When the self is formless consciousness and body,ego and the world are made of consciousness than the question of brain does not arise. The brain of the dream entity is reality within the dream. similarly the brain of the waking entity is reality within the waking experience. The dream becomes unreal when the waking takes place. Similarly the waking becomes unreal when wisdom dawns. Wisdom dawns when the waking entity becomes aware of the fact that, it itself is not the self. Deeper self-search revels the fact that, all the three states ceases to exist as reality when seekers understanding matures. Peoples idea that, the mind is within the brain skull is a fallacy. Because man and the world are within the mind. mind is in the form of universe. and universe appears as waking or dream. the witness of the three states is formless and apart.
Scientific invention :-
Why You Are Not Your Brain, and Other Lessons from the Biology of Consciousness
by :Alva Noë. Hill and Wang, 2009
Alva No, a University of California, Berkeley, philosopher and cognitive scientist, argues that after decades of concerted effort on the part of neuroscientists, psychologists and philosophers "only one proposition about how the brain makes us conscious ... has emerged unchallenged: we don't have a clue." The reason we have been unable to explain the neural basis of consciousness, he says, is that it does not take place in the brain. Consciousness is not something that happens inside us but something we achieve it is more like dancing than it is like the digestive process. To understand consciousness the fact that we think and feel and that a world shows up for us we need to look at a larger system of which the brain is only one element. Consciousness requires the joint operation of brain, body and world.
"You are not your brain. The brain, rather, is part of what you are."
Friday at 4:49pm · · 1 person
Santthosh Kumaar The 'I' and I AM is the seed of the ignorance and also inborn samskara and conditioning. The ignorance vanishes only through wisdom.
Friday at 4:56pm · · 1 person
Trevor Light Bown Consciousness maybe created the brain in order to condense and work the form. From the moment of birth the brain grows and begins to create an interpreter of consciousness. Self awareness happens as a toddler and the brain becomes conditioned to the person he will become by the age of seven.
The person can then be lost for a lifetime in his own thought-belief conditioning of fighting to survive and preserve his false "I" or "me" identity of name job and circumstance. Unless there is a questioning of everything then one can follow like sheep all the religions, fashions, entertainments like sheep.
First one must question everything. One must first be lucid in the dream state. All the charachters in your dream are self created, because you realize the body is asleep elsewhere. Then the same lucidity must be brought to the everyday state, as Awareness. anything else is book knowledge accumilated in the brain as memory, and memory is second hand images of thought. A dead thing
Friday at 6:24pm ·
Santthosh Kumaar As the seeker indulges in deeper self-search he becomes aware of the fact that:-The three states are an object to the formless subject. thus man and the universe are within the object. object is mere illusion from the formless subject. Thus we have to mentally drop the object in order to know the subject, by realizing the object and subject are one in essence. All the objects that one sees within the universe are limited to form, space, time. The universe is limited to waking or dream. Waking and dream is limited to the mind. Only the consciousness, which is cause of the mind or universe, is unlimited and uncaused.
Consciousness is limitless. The universe is mere limited mirage created out of consciousness. Thus universe and all its contents identified with form and name are mere mirage are bound by form time and space. Thus form, time and space are myth because they are mere mirage. Thus holding the form time and space as reality and holding them as yardstick to prove the existence is erroneous. Thus the reasoning has to be based on the formless consciousness, which is permanent, not on the form, time and space, which are impermanent.
Only the consciousness, which is the true self, can be called infinite. The mind or universe, which appears as waking or dream, Cannot be called infinite. The ocean can be called limitless, but not the waves. Some waves are quite large, some are small, but all are limited in time and space. The waves appear limited as long as one looks at the waves and ocean as separate or "dual" entities. If he considers the wave as part and parcel of ocean or considers both as water only, then the wave is limitless like the ocean. Similarly, if one holds the form as self then he bound by time and space. If he considers the formless consciousness as self, the form, time and space is dissolved in the consciousness and becomes limitless.
From a non-dualistic viewpoint if ocean is limitless, so is the wave, because both the ocean and the wave are a single, non-dual entity. Thus from a dualistic view point, the wave "appears" incomplete, and limited, but is really infinite as the ocean itself. Thus, if there is only a single substance, then the question of one being infinite or complete and the other limited or finite does not arise at all. If one becomes aware of the fact that the self is not the mind or universe but self is formless substance and witness of the mind, then, the mind becomes one with the limitless and infinite consciousness.
Universe is Mind. Nature of the mind is duality; Duality is apparent, not real. The negation of duality means negation of the reality of duality, but not the negation of the experience of duality. The experience of duality that one sees in real life is apparent or relative, called unreal. Self-Realization means becoming aware of the unreal nature of the duality, which we experience it as waking experience.
Most people are scared even to think life is mere illusion, it is because their attachment to the worldly life and family attachment and accumulated wealth. There is nothing to fear, their physical identity or the world will not disappear but their unreal nature will be exposed, same way one becomes aware of the unreal nature of the dream in the midst of duality, the unreal nature of the waking experience is realized in the midst of the waking experience. Thus one gets freedom from experiencing the duality as reality after realizing the fact that the self is neither waking entity nor the dream entity but the self is that witness the waking and dream experience as a whole without the physical apparatus.
From a dualistic viewpoint, a small wave is afraid of being swallowed by the large wave and prays to the ocean for protection from large waves. This is what prayers and worship are. From a non-dualistic point of view, there is no such fear. The three states are mere mirage created out of consciousness, only. On the ultimate standpoint duality [mind or waking] as apparent, is not real.
The Unity appears diversified in waking or dream. Self-realization brings unity in diversity. The self-realization is not the knowledge gained from the external world but the realizing the inner reality how this how the universe which appears as waking or dream [duality] and dissolves as deep sleep [non-duality].
Birth, life and death and the world are experienced as reality within the waking or dream. Everyone is in ignorance in waking or dream. Until ignorance is there the duality will prevail as reality. The ignorance will prevail as long as one fully understands that duality is apparent and not real.
If one has the conviction he is an individual separate from the world and world existed prior to him and he is born in it later on, he will remain in ignorance experiencing the duality as reality. Thus it is necessary to realize the fact that, the three states are not different from consciousness. Everything is consciousness only. The limitless, infinite or non-dual consciousness also means that no entity other than consciousness exists in the three states. Consciousness is both the man and the universe. In other words, consciousness is the formless substance and witness of the mind, which appears as waking or dream. There is no other cause or existence, except consciousness. The consciousness is cause of everything that exists and it itself is un-caused. thus whatever seen known,experienced believed as a person of the world within the waking experience is reality within the waking experience but waking experience itself is illusion.
Friday at 6:41pm · · 2 people
