In orthodox Advaitins accept the karma theory. If they accept
the karma theory, one will not be able to reach the non-dual destination. If one
accepts karma theory then it is impossible to treat the world as illusion. All
the pundits’ explanation of karma theory carries no weight on realm of truth.
The birth, life and death are part of the waking experience, which is mere illusion on the standpoint of the true self. It is no use of saying that, we are not born, we do not die because, because we all were born and we all are going to die. However, the birth, life and death are part of the illusion, which comes and goes as waking experience. The formless witness of the three states is real, which is our identity has no birth and death. That is why self-knowledge is nothing to do with the religious based Advaita, which is based on Vedas.
A Gnani will never say we are not born; we are not going to die. Only to the mediocre who nod their head, he will say this to inspire them to think of the formless true identity, which is birth less, deathless. Thus, it is wrong to say we are not born and we do not die by limiting the self to the physical entity. If one limits the self to the physical entity alone, one gets only half-truth. The self pervades all the three states, as its formless substance and witness. The formless substance and witness, which is our true self [true identity]. Without knowing the true self-mere saying, we are not born, we do not die is not the knowledge, which has come from depth, it is mere bookish knowledge.
Sage Sri, Sankara says the world is unreal . He never said body is unreal. He would have said only birth and death is unreal but he did not say that, he said the world is unreal. He meant the world including the body, because the body and the world appear together and disappear together (waking or dream). Then we have to think, what remain without the body and the world as reality. How can the birth, life, death, rebirth, and reincarnation, which take place in an unreal world (waking or dream), can be true. The one, which is aware of the birth, life death, rebirth and reincarnation (illusion or unreal), is formless reality, which is the true self/true identity. The formless self is your true identity, which is birthless and deathless but it is the witness of the birth, life and death and rebirth (illusion or unreal).
On the standpoint of identity the birth, life, death, rebirth and reincarnation theory is part of the illusion or unreal. The body cannot reincarnate, the body and the world are created out of the same formless stuff. Until one views and judges on the base of flesh, bone and blood (five elements), he will not be able to grasp the non-dual truth. Thus, one must know on what standpoint we are not born and we do not die thoroughly, just by hearsay views, it will not lead anyone to the non-dual destination.
The seeker has to learn to view and judge on the standpoint of the soul, the innermost self. Then you will be never having any confusion. It is good you are attending the Advaita discussion. It helps you to think deeply when they say something. When one thinks deeply then only the inner revelation starts and start burning the dross (confusion/doubts). One has enough material stored in one’s subconscious by reading FP& IP Blogs ; all will start yielding fruit and start revealing, when he starts thinking very deeply. This is the inner process every serious seeker experiences. The inner dialogue will start and one will start getting answers from the inner core of your existence.
The birth, life and death are part of the waking experience, which is mere illusion on the standpoint of the true self. It is no use of saying that, we are not born, we do not die because, because we all were born and we all are going to die. However, the birth, life and death are part of the illusion, which comes and goes as waking experience. The formless witness of the three states is real, which is our identity has no birth and death. That is why self-knowledge is nothing to do with the religious based Advaita, which is based on Vedas.
A Gnani will never say we are not born; we are not going to die. Only to the mediocre who nod their head, he will say this to inspire them to think of the formless true identity, which is birth less, deathless. Thus, it is wrong to say we are not born and we do not die by limiting the self to the physical entity. If one limits the self to the physical entity alone, one gets only half-truth. The self pervades all the three states, as its formless substance and witness. The formless substance and witness, which is our true self [true identity]. Without knowing the true self-mere saying, we are not born, we do not die is not the knowledge, which has come from depth, it is mere bookish knowledge.
Sage Sri, Sankara says the world is unreal . He never said body is unreal. He would have said only birth and death is unreal but he did not say that, he said the world is unreal. He meant the world including the body, because the body and the world appear together and disappear together (waking or dream). Then we have to think, what remain without the body and the world as reality. How can the birth, life, death, rebirth, and reincarnation, which take place in an unreal world (waking or dream), can be true. The one, which is aware of the birth, life death, rebirth and reincarnation (illusion or unreal), is formless reality, which is the true self/true identity. The formless self is your true identity, which is birthless and deathless but it is the witness of the birth, life and death and rebirth (illusion or unreal).
On the standpoint of identity the birth, life, death, rebirth and reincarnation theory is part of the illusion or unreal. The body cannot reincarnate, the body and the world are created out of the same formless stuff. Until one views and judges on the base of flesh, bone and blood (five elements), he will not be able to grasp the non-dual truth. Thus, one must know on what standpoint we are not born and we do not die thoroughly, just by hearsay views, it will not lead anyone to the non-dual destination.
The seeker has to learn to view and judge on the standpoint of the soul, the innermost self. Then you will be never having any confusion. It is good you are attending the Advaita discussion. It helps you to think deeply when they say something. When one thinks deeply then only the inner revelation starts and start burning the dross (confusion/doubts). One has enough material stored in one’s subconscious by reading FP& IP Blogs ; all will start yielding fruit and start revealing, when he starts thinking very deeply. This is the inner process every serious seeker experiences. The inner dialogue will start and one will start getting answers from the inner core of your existence.
