Mystics and Yogis say- 'I am God' but how is he to know that he is God? His mere statement is not enough. He must have proof; he must show
that He is God. The god is reality within
the experience of duality (waking). The god cannot exist without the experience duality (waking).
When duality (waking) is mere illusion, how can anything seen, known, believed and
experienced within the duality (waking) can be real.
The orthodoxy which is based on individual conduct is not the means to acquire self-knowledge or non-dual wisdom, because the self is not individual. The self is formless and it pervades in everything and everywhere in the universe. Thus all this theoretical philosophy and theories based on the individual conduct are not the means to Self –Knowledge or Brahma Gnana. Because the non-duality cannot be mixed with religion and yoga because in religion and yoga one has to accept blindly and there is no scope for inquiry.
Religion is based on ego, which is the false self within the false experience whereas the ultimate truth is based on the formless soul or consciousness, which is the innermost self.
The orthodox pundits say that Vedas as final authority for the Vedantins and he has nothing else to believe in it, they do not know the fact that they themselves are indulging in non-Vedic activities which Vedas clearly bars.
As one goes deeper into the annals of the history, it indicates the fact that somewhere someone has added the Puranas in the name of Veda Vyasa the grand master of the Vedas. It is impossible to accept and believe that Veda Vyasa authored and introduced the Puranas which has all conceptual gods because:-
In Vedas the God has been described as:-
The orthodoxy which is based on individual conduct is not the means to acquire self-knowledge or non-dual wisdom, because the self is not individual. The self is formless and it pervades in everything and everywhere in the universe. Thus all this theoretical philosophy and theories based on the individual conduct are not the means to Self –Knowledge or Brahma Gnana. Because the non-duality cannot be mixed with religion and yoga because in religion and yoga one has to accept blindly and there is no scope for inquiry.
Religion is based on ego, which is the false self within the false experience whereas the ultimate truth is based on the formless soul or consciousness, which is the innermost self.
The orthodox pundits say that Vedas as final authority for the Vedantins and he has nothing else to believe in it, they do not know the fact that they themselves are indulging in non-Vedic activities which Vedas clearly bars.
As one goes deeper into the annals of the history, it indicates the fact that somewhere someone has added the Puranas in the name of Veda Vyasa the grand master of the Vedas. It is impossible to accept and believe that Veda Vyasa authored and introduced the Puranas which has all conceptual gods because:-
In Vedas the God has been described as:-
Sakshi (Witness)
Chetan (conscious)
Nirguna (Without form and
properties).
Nitya (eternal)
Shuddha (pure)
Buddha (omniscient)
Mukta (unattached).
It clearly indicates all
the gods with form and attributes are mere imagination based on the false self. Thus
there were adulteration and add-ons in the past, which has to be bifurcated if
one wants pure Vedic essence.
In Yajurved says:-
In Yajurved says:-
Translation 1.
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc.).
They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc.).
They sink deeper
in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for
example table, chair, idol etc.)
[Yajurved 40:9]
Translation 2.
"Deep into
shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness
deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent."
[Yajurveda
Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith page 538]
Translation 3.
"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."
"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time."
[Yajur Veda
40:9.]
So, Yajur Veda indicates that:-
So, Yajur Veda indicates that:-
They sink deeper
in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for
example table, chair, idol etc [Yajurved 40:9]
Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." [Yajur Veda 40:9.]
When the religion of the Veda knows no idols then why so many gods and goddesses with different form and name are being propagated as Vedic gods. Why these conceptual gods are introduced when the Vedic concept of God is free from form and attributes.
Who introduced the concept of god with attributes and attributeless gods, when Yajur Veda says: - those who worship visible things, born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like), in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness. Therefore, all these add-ons proves that the form and attribute based concepts are introduced by some sages of the past with a new belief system and code of conducts in the name of Vedas.
Sruti is made the final or exclusive authority in apara Vidya and that for supporting the tenet of the CAUSAL relation or creatorship of Brahman, Nirguna Brahman = the "Absolute beyond qualities," which can be defined only in a negative way. For the Shankarian school = the Ultimate Reality, higher than the Lord. i.e. of Saguna or apara Brahman ... The support of Scriptural Revelation is, therefore, absolutely necessary for this hypothesis of cosmology, this Saguna or apara (= inferior) Brahman, but not for the absolute truth of Nirguna Brahman. The Sruti itself says: "This Atma is NOT to be attained by a study of the Vedas. [Katha Upanishad I, 2, 23.]
Therefore, all the add-ons and attribute based knowledge, which are inferior, have to be bifurcated and excluded to know the ultimate truth. The seeker of truth has to drop all the inferior knowledge based on the attributes and go beyond the Vedas to understand assimilate and realize the ultimate truth or Brahman.
One has to go beyond Vedas means go beyond religion. Go beyond religion means, go beyond the concept of god. Thus, going beyond Veda, religion and conceptual god means going beyond illusion. That is the end of Vedas [Veda –antha]
When one goes into the annals of the history it looks like the true Advaita expounded by Sri Sankara and his param guru, Goudpada was lost or mutilated by the orthodox, because the preaching and practice does not match.
It is necessary for the seeker to do his homework, and verify the validity of all the claims, rather than blindly believe, what others expound as knowledge, till, the un-contradicted truth is obtained.
The seeker must have the courage of Buddha to accept the truth and reject the untruth. Since Buddha rejected religion, the idea of god and scriptures, therefore, it is evident that, he has gone through every aspect and verified and found them to be inadequate and useless for the pursuit of truth.
Even Buddhism is mixed up with regional culture and traditions of the local religion, wherever it existed. Thus to get the full essence from Buddhism is very difficult.
The scriptures are for the ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Wisdom is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.
Each sect concocts a God to suit its own purposes. Such concocted Gods have no value in pursuit of truth. The man himself suggests that there must be a God. It is an auto-suggestion.
But as one goes deeper in self-search one becomes aware of the fact that, Vedas include the Upanishads considered to be supremely authoritative, as revealed truth. But the Upanishads clearly declare that:-
Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." [Yajur Veda 40:9.]
When the religion of the Veda knows no idols then why so many gods and goddesses with different form and name are being propagated as Vedic gods. Why these conceptual gods are introduced when the Vedic concept of God is free from form and attributes.
Who introduced the concept of god with attributes and attributeless gods, when Yajur Veda says: - those who worship visible things, born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like), in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness. Therefore, all these add-ons proves that the form and attribute based concepts are introduced by some sages of the past with a new belief system and code of conducts in the name of Vedas.
Sruti is made the final or exclusive authority in apara Vidya and that for supporting the tenet of the CAUSAL relation or creatorship of Brahman, Nirguna Brahman = the "Absolute beyond qualities," which can be defined only in a negative way. For the Shankarian school = the Ultimate Reality, higher than the Lord. i.e. of Saguna or apara Brahman ... The support of Scriptural Revelation is, therefore, absolutely necessary for this hypothesis of cosmology, this Saguna or apara (= inferior) Brahman, but not for the absolute truth of Nirguna Brahman. The Sruti itself says: "This Atma is NOT to be attained by a study of the Vedas. [Katha Upanishad I, 2, 23.]
Therefore, all the add-ons and attribute based knowledge, which are inferior, have to be bifurcated and excluded to know the ultimate truth. The seeker of truth has to drop all the inferior knowledge based on the attributes and go beyond the Vedas to understand assimilate and realize the ultimate truth or Brahman.
One has to go beyond Vedas means go beyond religion. Go beyond religion means, go beyond the concept of god. Thus, going beyond Veda, religion and conceptual god means going beyond illusion. That is the end of Vedas [Veda –antha]
When one goes into the annals of the history it looks like the true Advaita expounded by Sri Sankara and his param guru, Goudpada was lost or mutilated by the orthodox, because the preaching and practice does not match.
It is necessary for the seeker to do his homework, and verify the validity of all the claims, rather than blindly believe, what others expound as knowledge, till, the un-contradicted truth is obtained.
The seeker must have the courage of Buddha to accept the truth and reject the untruth. Since Buddha rejected religion, the idea of god and scriptures, therefore, it is evident that, he has gone through every aspect and verified and found them to be inadequate and useless for the pursuit of truth.
Even Buddhism is mixed up with regional culture and traditions of the local religion, wherever it existed. Thus to get the full essence from Buddhism is very difficult.
The scriptures are for the ignorant masses, who wholly accept the material world as it presents itself. Wisdom is for those who have begun to realize that things are not what they seem.
Each sect concocts a God to suit its own purposes. Such concocted Gods have no value in pursuit of truth. The man himself suggests that there must be a God. It is an auto-suggestion.
But as one goes deeper in self-search one becomes aware of the fact that, Vedas include the Upanishads considered to be supremely authoritative, as revealed truth. But the Upanishads clearly declare that:-
Katha Upanishad declares: - This Atman cannot be attained by the study of the
Vedas, or by intelligence, or by much hearing of sacred books. It is attained by him alone whom It chooses.
To such a one Atman reveals Its own form. (Ch-II -23-P-20)
Mundaka Upanishad : - This Atman
cannot be attained through the study of the Vedas, nor through intelligence, nor
through much learning. He who chooses Atman—by him alone is Atman attained.
It is the Atman that reveals to the seeker Its true nature. (3 page70upanhsds by Nikilananda)
It means the truth is beyond the scriptures and egocentric intelligence. Thus in order to grasp, assimilate and realize the non-dualistic truth the seeker to employ soul-centric reasoning faculty.
It means the truth is beyond the scriptures and egocentric intelligence. Thus in order to grasp, assimilate and realize the non-dualistic truth the seeker to employ soul-centric reasoning faculty.
When mystic-minded followers may see all kinds of visions
when they sits before the Yogic-Guru, he; it is because he expects certain
experiences and gets them, or else the others followers suggest them; the mind
of the disciple manufactures the entire experience. It is precisely the same as
experiences of a hypnotic subject, which are the consequences of a stronger
mind working on a weaker one.
First one has to find out what he knows and believes is truth or not. Because the mass follows it cannot be accepted as truth. They may be in error; mere numbers do not make truth. One has to verify the validity of their belief and their belief system. One should not assume his inherited truth as truth without verification. People think “that the majority believes in religion and god, must therefore it must be true." Seeker has to stop with his imaginations about God, and verify the validity of his own existence to know whatever he has seen, known, believed and experienced are part and parcel of the illusion.
If someone claims claim that he seen God by intuition cannot be disapproved. But he must prove what he has seen is god. When man sees the world within waking experience, and when the waking experience itself is an illusion on the base of the soul, which is the true self.
Thus whatever claimed by anyone in the waking experience, is bound to be unreal because the waking experience it is falsehood on the standpoint of the soul or consciousness, which is the innermost self. Thus the onus of proof is on those who make an assertion. Religionists and mystics are required to prove the existence of god, without quoting the scriptures; the burden to disprove is not on their critics.
No mystic experience has ever revealed truth. The feat of a Guru, touching people and thus putting them into mystic trances is purely a physical or at best, a psychological one; based on the power of suggestions it has nothing to do with the question of truth.
Mysticism charms mass mindsets but reason does not. Faith, feeling or experience is on everyone's lips. The divine sounds are heard interiorly in meditation is based on individuality, and whatever is based on individuality is mere hallucination. When seeking mind sees all this diversity and contradiction of beliefs and opinions, it should reflect that there is some error somewhere. This doubt is the beginning of the inquiry into truth.
First one has to find out what he knows and believes is truth or not. Because the mass follows it cannot be accepted as truth. They may be in error; mere numbers do not make truth. One has to verify the validity of their belief and their belief system. One should not assume his inherited truth as truth without verification. People think “that the majority believes in religion and god, must therefore it must be true." Seeker has to stop with his imaginations about God, and verify the validity of his own existence to know whatever he has seen, known, believed and experienced are part and parcel of the illusion.
If someone claims claim that he seen God by intuition cannot be disapproved. But he must prove what he has seen is god. When man sees the world within waking experience, and when the waking experience itself is an illusion on the base of the soul, which is the true self.
Thus whatever claimed by anyone in the waking experience, is bound to be unreal because the waking experience it is falsehood on the standpoint of the soul or consciousness, which is the innermost self. Thus the onus of proof is on those who make an assertion. Religionists and mystics are required to prove the existence of god, without quoting the scriptures; the burden to disprove is not on their critics.
No mystic experience has ever revealed truth. The feat of a Guru, touching people and thus putting them into mystic trances is purely a physical or at best, a psychological one; based on the power of suggestions it has nothing to do with the question of truth.
Mysticism charms mass mindsets but reason does not. Faith, feeling or experience is on everyone's lips. The divine sounds are heard interiorly in meditation is based on individuality, and whatever is based on individuality is mere hallucination. When seeking mind sees all this diversity and contradiction of beliefs and opinions, it should reflect that there is some error somewhere. This doubt is the beginning of the inquiry into truth.
