Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless).+

The Vedas as a body of scripture contains many contradictions and they are fragmentary in nature. For Hindus, scriptures like the Bhagavad-Gita, Ramayana, Mahabharata, and Puranas are more attractive and appealing than the Vedas. And also, the Gods and Goddesses they worship differ considerably from the Vedic ones. The collection of hymns called Vedas are written in praise of certain deities by poets over several centuries and does not seem to have much significance for the Hindus

Yajur Veda says: ~

Translation 1

They enter darkness, those who worship natural things (for example air, water, sun, moon, animals, fire, stone, etc.).

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc.) (Yajurveda 40:9)

Translation 2

"Deep into the shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti's worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent." (Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T. H. Griffith pg. 538)

Translation 3

"They are enveloped in darkness, in other words, are steeped in ignorance and sunk in the greatest depths of misery who worship the uncreated, eternal prakrti -- the material cause of the world -- in place of the All-pervading God, But those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

So, Yajur Veda indicates that: ~

They sink deeper in darkness those who worship sambhuti. (Sambhuti means created things, for example, table, chair, idol, etc (Yajurveda 40:9)

Those who worship visible things born of the prakrti, such as the earth, trees, and bodies (human and the like) in place of God are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time." (Yajur Veda 40:9.)

Then why worship and glorify the non-~Vedic Gods in place of Vedic God when Veda bars such activities and also warns people who indulge in such activities are enveloped in still greater darkness, in other words, they are extremely foolish, fall into an awful hell of pain and sorrow, and suffer terribly for a long time.

God exists prior to the appearance of form, time, and space. Form, time, and space cease to exist as a reality when wisdom dawns. Thus, the Gods and Gurus have no place in the domain of the Advaitic reality. Advaita is the nature of the Soul, which is the real God. Thus, Self-realization is the only way to God-realization.

By worshipping the religious Gods and Gurus one will not get Self-realization or God-realization.

The Soul, the inner Guru reveals ‘what is real’ and ‘what is unreal” when the seeker is receptive and ready.

The Upanishad says: ~ 'The human goal is to acquire Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana and they indicate the personal gods, scriptures, worship, and rituals are not the means to Self–Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana, then why anyone should indulge in it. The religion, concept of individualized god and scriptures are the greatest obstacle to realizing non-dual truth or Self-realization because they are based on false Self. The seeker of truth has to search for the ultimate truth without losing himself in the labyrinths of philosophy, through deeper, inquiry, analysis, and reasoning, and assimilate and realize it.

Sage Sankara’s Supreme Brahman (God in truth) is impersonal, Nirguna (without Gunas or attributes), Nirakara (formless), Nirvisesha (without special characteristics), immutable, eternal, and Akarta (non-agent). God is above all needs and desires. God is always the Witnessing Subject. God can never become an object as God is beyond the reach of the senses. God is non-dual, one without a second. God has no other besides it. God is destitute of difference, either external or internal. God cannot be described because the description implies a distinction. God cannot be distinguished from any other than God. In God, there is not distinction between substance and attribute. Sat-Chit-Ananda constituted the very essence or Svarupa of God, and not just God's attributes. The Nirguna Brahman of Sage Sankara is impersonal.

God is neither male nor female because God is non-dual. God is in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself. Athma is a formless, timeless, and spaceless existence.

All Gods with forms and names are a reality within the dualistic illusion or Maya. the real God is hidden by the dualistic illusion or Maya. the dualistic illusion is present in the form of the universe (I).:~Santthosh Kumaar

Self-Search

Many seekers in this path of inquiry is still struggling even after long years and waiting for something to happen. Even after reading and inquiring deeply enough, still they are unable progress further.  Even they are unable to get any benefit in their spiritual pursuit through self – inquiry. And also they are unable to give up the self inquiry due to the attraction of Ramana.  Many seekers end up with using "Who am `I'" as mantra and become stagnant without being aware of the purpose of the self-inquiry. 

 As I was reading a web page I was surprised to know Mr. Sivapraksh Pillai one of the first disciples of Sri, Raman Maharishi that even after 50 long years he was unable to achieve his goal through inquiry, hats off to his sincere and honest statement. 

In my honest opinion with all the due respect to every soul which was involved in recording and publishing the self inquiry which is greatest treasure and which opens the golden gate to  the seeker to enter into spiritual world from religious world. Still there is lots confusion and doubts which are impossible to get answer the way the inquiry is presented in the books. But one will be able to overcome the same after lots of research. But it is impossible to do research in the present framework of the Self-inquiry. Since everyone is expecting and waiting for some mystic experience to happen and refuse to verify and accept the truth, because of there conservative outlook.

WHO AM I

 Even the intellectual- class, who have authored many books are viewed and judged Sri, Ramana on mystic point of view were unable to deliver goods due to their inherited religious background. Sri, Ramana was mystic for the mass but he was Gnani for the class.

Religious based Advitha is nothing to do with spiritual Advitha .Original Advitha was modified on the base of Vedas and introduced to suit the mass mind set by Sri, Sankara to uplift the Sanatana Dharma[Hinduism] which was based on Vedas. Even Sri, Sankara also says the religion, scriptures and yoga are not the means to self realization. Spiritual Advitha of Sankara was lost. Spiritual Advitha is nothing to do with religious Advitha since the aim of spiritual Advitha is to acquire only wisdom.

 It also becomes evident that different people who have interviewed Raman at different time had different back ground and mind set. Therefore it is necessary to bifurcate religious views of Sri Raman from his spiritual views to get the hidden essence of Sri Ramana's teaching.

S.S. COHEN, Nisrgdutta Maharaj, Poonjaji and Osho`s books are more helpful in pursuit of truth but not to the core.  Any way one has to do his own home work and research. I find not only inquiry but reasoning is most important in unfolding the mystery.

Nisargadutt Maharaj clears many doubts and hurdles but still one cannot reach the ultimate truth since there are little confusions for which the seeker will not find reasonable reasoning.  

S.S. Cohen has done excellent research on Raman but still there are many hidden massages which can be unfolded if the inquiry is well directed if reason is used.

 Seeker cannot sit expecting some mystic experience to happen and which will unfold the mystery and helps one to experience the bliss.

All the mystic experience is based on yoga and religion. Yoga is necessary for preparatory stages and yoga is not means for self realization. Religion is used in the past as a tool condition the mind, to be, to behave, to believe, to live and create its own pedigree of mindset to  help the society to live in harmony with its own code of conduct. Religion is nothing to with spirituality. Spirituality is the tool to unfold the mystery of the mind. Therefore religion and god or guru glorification, scriptural studies are not necessary in pursuit of truth. 

 Inquiry with reason on the proper (true) base only will help the seeker to unfold the mystery of the mind or human experience.

The conservative religious background in which every seeker is sentimentally involved is the main hurdle and obstacle in realizing the truth. Therefore it is necessary for everyone to know how they are hurdle and create fatter in truth pursuit. It is necessary for the seeker of the truth to have the courage to accept the truth and reject the untruth when the truth is unfolded through inquiry and reasoning and analysis. Ramana`s grace will pour only when the seeker accepts the truth and rejects the untruth.

The main hurdle one has to cross when one inquires "WHO AM `I'" and proceeds further as per the instruction in the book, one finds it difficult in the latter stage and finds something is inadequate and wrong somewhere. Therefore it is necessary to find and remove the obstacles to reach the goal.

When one gets the answer I am not the body then the inquiry ends there. If `I' is not the body then one cannot inquire on the physical base. Since the mind, ego senses whatever one experienced as a person of the world, god, religion, scriptures and whatever seen and known loses its meaning because `I' itself cannot exist without the physical body.  Therefore there is no meaning in carrying out inquiry on the physical identity saying I am not the senses, I am not the mind, and I am not this I am not that etc. because along with body the mind sense and ego and the physical experience of the world is rejected along with the physical body. When the physical body is not `I' there is no entity to practice Self enquiry. Then if you accept there is nothing further, then it becomes Buddha's emptiness. But it cannot be empty because still something remains to say it is empty as Goudpada declares.  Therefore it becomes difficult to inquire on the physical base.

·         Then "What is `I'?" takes the seeker further and he become aware of the fact that `I' is not "Self".

·         "But what is `I'?  When `I' is not "Self" then "What is `I'".

After 20 years of practice inquiry I came to firm conclusion that the inquiry alone will not yield any fruits inquiry with reasoning and analysis will take the seeker towards reality of the true state of the mind.

 

·         `I' becomes the whole experience of the universe including the body

·         If `I' is not `Self then  what is `Self'

·         "What is `Self"?

·         The self is the substance and witness of the universe

·         What is the substance?

·         The substance is the formless non-dual Ataman or spirit which is the true nature of the mind.

The main purpose of inquiry is to diverting the attention of the mind from the experience of duality to its formless non-dual true state. 

 When the mind is in its formless non-dual true state it is Ataman. When Ataman or spirit is in the illusory state of duality it is `I'.  Therefore the seeker of the truth has to start with "Self –Inquiry" because it is the first step. But inquiry alone will not yield fruits; there is no use of waiting in vain for some mystic experience to happen. The wisdom will not dawn without reasoning. 

Until and unless the seeking base is rectified the inquiry will not go further. This is my observation and conviction. Inquiry with reasoning and analyzing will definitely yield results. Therefore keeping all these points in mind removing all the fetters and barricades in self inquiry we have to help the seeker to realize the reality of his existence in lesser time and effort in this very life. 

Deeper personal research is necessary in this matter. The conservative intellectual class who only accept what they have inherited, what they know, what they have read and what they have accepted as ultimate truth and they don't have humility to verify and accept the truth as truth. Therefore there is no use of mingling with such mind sets which will yield no fruits.

There is a necessary to rectify the format of inquiry by deeper research by removing all fetters and obstacles and prove the same with the Sri, Raman's own words which are scattered here and there in his answers to the questions collected by many seekers, which will help the fellow seekers to realize the truth in lesser time and effort. 

  By using reason on true base you  will find it much interesting and you can prove to your self  the fact `I' is not the self and there is no use of searching the truth on the base of `I'  which yields no fruits. And self –realization is possible through properly well directed inquiry and reasoning without physical practice but through mental effort by deeper reasoning and analysis. There is a need to present the inquiry in a proper format and a yard stick to know what is truth and what is untruth to help the seekers to progress in there pursuit of truth. I have kept the format and yardstick ready but I am going to introduce it shortly.  

Since everything is happening on its own accord not as one wish and wills.  One has to witness the happening on the base of the invisible witness to realize the witness is apart and unaffected.

The Vedic system did not have a caste system. The caste system was a fake created in the name of Hinduism.+

The Vedic system did not have a caste system. The caste system was a fake created in the name of Hinduism. 

This non~Vedic belief system called Hinduism has created hatred in the low-caste Hindus for the higher caste.

Hinduism is not a religion. Rather it is a group of castes and creeds founded by different founders at different times within India that share common beliefs while still remaining very different.

Many may even argue that it is not a religion but more a way of life. The term "Hinduism" was not developed by the practitioners, but by groups outside of the religions as a means for labeling the entire Indian people.

Many groups within Hinduism claim a sort of "going back to the Vedas". While these groups are attempting to create a bond with the Vedas, they will never be followers of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion while they still hold their core ideals.

Hinduism indulges non-Vedic beliefs such as idolatry, ancestor worship, pilgrimages, priestcraft, offerings made in temples, the caste system, untouchability, and child marriages. All these lack Vedic sanctions, therefore, Hinduism is not Ancient Vedic religion or Santana Dharma.

These core beliefs are at odds with those of the Vedas. Many followers of Hinduism do translate the Vedas to fit into Hindu thought by changing the translation to reflect the beliefs of monism, reincarnation, the caste system, and the absence of animal and human sacrifice. However, this poor translator.

A well-known movement to go "back to the Vedas" is the Arya Samaj movement. This movement was started in 1875 by Dayananda Saraswathi. It was a movement within Hinduism that was meant to turn back to the Vedas. It was their belief that the Vedas alone were sacred and the only revelation of God. They also believed that all of the sciences of the modern world could be found within the Vedas.

As has been already stated, Arya Samaj is a follower of Hinduism. While they are attempting to go back to the Vedas, they are not Vedic. While they do not accept the texts past the Vedas, they are still monists and uphold other Hindu views. In their reformations, they rejected Brahminic control and they are open to all castes and women.

The Vedic culture and religion eventually came to dominate, and define, India. Towards the end of the Vedic period, many scholars within Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion began to start a process of thinking differently about how they were connected to the Gods, to Heaven, and to Yajna. It was this questioning mixed with the ramped corruption of the different theories that helped lead the way to the Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion fall.

The people who had once practiced Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion were now on their way to adopting new philosophies and ways of communing with the divine(s).

The religions that splintered off from Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion took ideas, thoughts, and beliefs from Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion and brought them into new ways of thinking that were meant to rebel against the Vedic religion, thus negating them as a different sect of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion.

Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion was not allowed to evolve further as a religion, instead, it lay stagnant while other religions splintered off from it. These religions took specific beliefs within Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion and followed them to their own ends, thus ending the Vedic period and the religion of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion. Some of the off-shoot religions of Sanatana Dharma or Vedic religion are Hinduism, Buddhism, and Jainism.

Moksha is interpreted in various ways. It means the dispelling of ignorance, freeing the Soul, the Self from the bondage of the illusory experience of birth, life, death, and the world--all other meanings regarding heaven, etc. are all imagination.

Moksha only means knowing the ultimate truth or Brahman. That is why they have coined the word Jivanmukta.

In the Vedic era, a Brahmin was a person who had attained Self- knowledge or Atma Jnana. This was an extremely difficult path of the discipline of body, mind, and intellect, and people irrespective of their birth or class, who were dedicated to such an austere life, were recognized as Brahmins.

A great example of this tradition (that a person becomes a Brahmin, rather than born as one) is the case of Vishwamitra, a warrior (Kshatriya), who became a Brahmin after attaining Atma Jnana or Self-Knowledge.:~Santthosh KUmaar

From the Vedic perspective, all your religious Gods are non-Vedic Gods based on Mythology and are not God in truth.+

From the Vedic perspective, all your religious Gods are non-Vedic Gods based on Mythology and are not God in truth.

Religious Gods are based on blind belief. Blind belief-based Gods are not God in truth.

Religious God cannot be considered as the center because, the Soul, the innermost ‘Self’ is the center of all that exists.

Without the Soul the world in which you exist ceases to exist, which means the religious God is dependent on the Soul for his existence. God in truth is only the Soul, which is present in the form of consciousness.

Rig Veda: ~ 'Prajnanam Brahma'- Consciousness is the ultimate reality or Brahman or God in truth.

Do not accept any other truth other than the consciousness. Consciousness is the ultimate truth, Nothing is real but consciousness,. Nothing Matters but realizing the ultimate truth. Consciousness is everywhere and in everything. Let these words be inscribed in your subconscious.

Even Bhagavad Gita says: ~ Brahmano hi pratisthaham ~ Brahman (God) is considered the all-pervading consciousness, which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material. (14.27).

When Bhagavad Gita says, God is considered the all-pervading consciousness which is the basis of all the animate and inanimate entities and material then nothing has to be accepted as God other than consciousness.

Even Brihadaranyaka Upanishad: ~ Brahman (God in truth) is present in the form of the Athma, and it is indeed Athma itself.

Even Rig Veda: ~ The Atman is the cause; Atman is the support of all that exists in this universe. May ye never turn away from the Atman, the Self. May ye never accept another God in place of the Atman nor worship other than the Atman?" (10:48, 5)

Brihadaranyaka Upanishad:~ "He who worships the deities as entities entirely separate from the Self does not know the truth. For the Gods, he is like a pasu (beast)". (1. 4. 10)

That is why Sage Sage VC- v6~ Let erudite scholars quote all the scripture, let Gods be invoked through sacrifices, let elaborate rituals be performed, let personal Gods be propitiated---yet, without the realization of one‘s identity With the Self, there shall be no liberation for the individual, not even in the lifetimes of a hundred Brahmas put together.

Sage Sankara goes on to say: ~A sickness of not cured by saying the word “medicine.” You must take the medicine. Liberation does not come by merely saying the word “Brahman.” Brahman must be realized. Until you allow this apparent universe to dissolve from your consciousness until you have realized Brahman, how can you find liberation just by saying the word Brahman? The result is merely a noise. Until a man has destroyed his enemies and taken possession of the splendor and wealth of the kingdom, he cannot become a king by simply saying “I am a king.”

A buried treasure is not uncovered by merely uttering the words: “Come forth.” You must follow the right directions, dig, remove the stones and earth from above it, and then make it your own. In the same way, the pure truth of the Atman, which is buried under Maya and the effects of Maya, can be reached by meditation, contemplation, and other spiritual disciplines but never by subtle arguments.

The Atmic path is not for religious and yogic-minded people. Religious and yogic people must move on to their chosen path. The Atmic path is for only seekers of truth who are seriously searching for the truth of their own existence. : ~ Santthosh Kumaar

Self is not the physical body

Many people bound to disagree because, they believe whatever they know, read, heard and accepted as ultimate truth, and they indulge in argument on their own point of view. Such arguments will not yield any fruits in the pursuit of truth.  F.P  is not for the intellectually infirm; there are many groups' paths and practices enough for them pouring out endless drizzle of conventional sentiments.

Only those seekers who have tried all the paths and practices and found them inadequate and useless to quench their spiritual thirst and the seekers who have intense urge and serious are most suited F.P.  There is no scope for argument because everyone is moving a head by clearing the doubts and confusion, by verifying the fact through inquiry and reasoning on the true base and moving ahead.  Reading the messages again and again itself is sort of spiritual practice, which sends the suggestion to the subconscious and it becomes receptive to receive self knowledge. When the inner revelation will start and clears all the obstacles and paves the path towards non-dual destination. 

F.P shares the true self-knowledge and it is a boon to all the serious seekers. 

SELF IS NOT THE PHYSIAL BODY

Seeker has to be aware the non-dual substance of the mind. There was never any division in the subject, but man is under the delusion that he is not one with it, because the illusion of whole experience of diversity is created out of the non-dual substance. Man and the world are part of that illusion. Thus man and world are mere illusion in reality. The man thinks him-self as self and view and judges the worldview within the illusion. Therefore he is ignorant of the fact that he and his experience of the world is the product of the illusion. Therefore, one has to find out what has this illusion to unfold the mystery of the duality or mind. 

Until man thinks he is the author of all the three states he will remain viewing and judging the worldview on the base of the `I' as self. Until one is deluded by `I', who is not self, he will not be in the position to grasp and assimilate the self-knowledge. Only by analyzing the three states seeker will becomes aware of the fact that the all the three states are appearing and disappearing in succession and the formless witness is within the three states but same time it is apart. It is within the three states because it pervades all the three states as its formless substance. And it is apart from the three states as its formless witness.  The Atman is like a railway station and all three states are like trains which come and go.  The station is unaffected of the trains which come and go.  Similarly, Atman is unaffected of the three states which appears and disappears.

The self   under the super imposition due to complete ignorance becomes the illusion whereas the same self under realization becomes Atman.

 A Gnani remains as Atman due to full realization whereas others remained as seekers due to ignorance and became Atman only when he becomes aware of the fact that `I' is not the self.

 This means that it is the will of Atman to maintain the realization to preach others or to maintain complete ignorance to enjoy fully. One cannot compare a Gnani to every seeker because Gnani also behaves as fellow seeker being under ignorance and guides them to overcome the ignorance without claiming himself as guru. 

Man is under the illusion of physical body. Atman is also under the illusion the whole waking experience or dream.  Man is not aware of Atman and Atman is not aware of itself in illusion. In both the cases the final effect of the illusion. 

When the illusion is absent then there is only Atman. Therefore seeker has to overcome the ignorance by deeper understanding and overcoming all the fatter and obstacles in realizing the fact that `I' is not the self.

Atman is the true self and not the physical body. This is transformation of one super imposition to another super imposition. The person has to realize the fact that `I' is not the physical body but `I' is the whole waking experience [mind] until man thinks himself as self he remains experiencing the duality as reality.  Until he remains in the experience of duality he will remain in the intoxication of the illusion. The intoxication of illusion [mind] will remain strong until the formless substance of the illusion is traced.  

Seeker of the truth has to realize the fact that, he is the self but Atman is the true self. Only then the illusion is truly understood because the self remains as Atman after perfect understanding of the illusion. The Atman becomes Atman on being relieved from the illusion of duality, Means becoming fully aware of the fact that the illusion is created out of one single substance that is Atman. Thus there is no second thing other then Atman.

Ataman is the true self and true self is ultimate reality or Brahman

Atman is the true self and true self is ultimate Reality. Just as the dream is superimposed on the Atman [F.W], the waking experience is also superimposed on Atman [F.W].  Thus the names and forms which appear as the waking experience or dream make up the superimposition. This is the unreal phenomenon. Thus the seeker has to realize the fact the burden of experience of duality is not on the `I', but on the formless witness of the `I'.
 

Atman is the unchanging, formless, non-dual Self.  The man within the waking experience thinks the physical body or `I' as self; but he is unaware of the fact that man and the world are present only within the waking or dream.  Thus man and the world are the part of the illusory waking experience.  Until man thinks himself as self and tries to view and judge the worldview he will not be able to grasp the knowledge of the true self .when one objectively sees this man and that man, this thing and that thing, and is deluded because he not aware of the fact that he and the world are within the waking experience. The author of the whole waking experience is the Atman, not the person. Thus it proves the fact that the burden of duality is not on the person within the waking experience but on the formless witness which witnesses the waking experience as a whole.

Man is entangled with something or the other in this world. The true self is not the man who perceives the world within the waking experience.  Until and unless this inherited delusion that man is self he is deluded by duality experience it as reality. Only when he analyzes the three states and becomes aware of the formless witness and realizes the fact that the formless witness which is Atman is the true self , then only he will be able to realize the fact that duality mere illusion and able to focus he attention on the Atman.

When one  relate his  identity with some idea, and he is  attached to that being `he ', then he  say that he is  old or young, parent or child, tall or short, rich or poor, etc… It is man's habit to take on identities and become attached to them…

Atman the true self is unattached, it isn't identified with any labels, it isn't attached to anything- it is not entangled with anything at all…'

When the seeker dives deeper through inquiry and reasoning on the true base, then he realizes the fact that the true self is neither `'I', nor `physical body '.  And also realizes the fact that `I' is the whole waking experience [mind].

When Again and again the seeker reflects on this; his conviction grows firmer. Further he realizes the Atman is eternal, and it is completely free of all bondage of experience of duality. Ataman is whole, and eternal - forever undecaying and indestructible…

Make Atman [F.W] as true self and waking experience is illusion as an Affirmation, for your-self. Remembering this reality whenever there is free time, gradually you'll find you start becoming disengaged and separate from waking experience by viewing and judging the worldview on the base of Atman as self. And when you will re-emerge into this world of tags and identity, you'll find yourself becoming detached and disinterested in the illusory waking experience of name and form….

The F.S messages are posted for this purpose so that by reflecting on them constantly the suggestion goes to the subconscious and it becomes receptive.  Again and again reflecting on the true self … through reading the messages reverses the thinking process to its source of the `I'. When one becomes aware of the fact `I' is not the self but the formless witness is the true self,   then you'll proclaim on the base of the true  self, `Nothing touches me, I am not tarnished by any feelings or impulses. I am not attached to anything at all…'

'I' IS NOT THE SELF

We all mistake the self to be the `I' and only the physical body is not the self. However, in reality `I' is not the self. Therefore, whatever is seen, known, believed and experienced and accumulated on the base of `I' is falsehood. Therefore, it is time to realize the fact that `I' is not the author. Until we think I is the author we are playing hide and seek game with the truth.

The Ataman or the  self.

The self is Ataman or sprit is birth- less and deathless eternal identity.

 

The `Self' is one's selfhood in its totality, that is both conscious and unconscious, and something that is often forgotten.

 

 The ego is not the self, limiting the Self to the ego and seeking truth is like trying to drain the ocean drop by drop. The self transcends our ego and the mind which appears as waking and dream. Thus limiting the' I' to self is cause of the ignorance.

 

 The self is sprit. The self is formless and nondual in its nature. The self is not and entity or identity within the waking or dream [mind]. Thus `I' is not the self.

 

The self is the subject and the formless substance and witness of the illusion. Thus the illusion is an object to the self. The subject and object together is self. Thus identifying the self as form within the waking or dream is erroneous.

 

The self is the formless substance and witness of the objective awareness [mind]. The self is uncreated and ever independent and permanent, whereas the objective awareness which appears and disappears as mind is dependent and impermanent.

 

The self is that out of which waking and dream comes. "It is not the `I' which creates the waking or dream, because they appear within the self.

 

The Self is seekers goal, to which the waking or dream returns. The Self is the source from which waking or dream come and to which they return. The goal of truth seeker is to make a connection between untruth [mind] and truth [Self]. This is the process of individuation.

 

The Self is timeless, formless and space less existence; that is why it can direct one  in dreams, by the compensation of opposites, and in synchronistic events.

 

It is necessary for the seeker to go beyond the experincer of duality to become aware of the formless witness [knower] which is the true Self.

 

The term 'self' is to designate the totality of objective awareness [mind or `I'], and the sum total of the conscious and unconscious contents.

 

Intellectuals   tend to identify their thinking as their real selfhood. The self is not to be identified with waking or dream. Objective awareness is fragmentary.

 

It takes some time for seekers to understand and assimilate ultimate truth in the beginning.

It takes some time for seekers to understand and assimilate ultimate truth in the beginning. If they are judgmental and start comparing and start arguing on the base of their accumulated knowledge, they will never be able to understand or assimilate and realize the non dual truth.

To help the seekers F.A.Q and Q.A are posted time to time, which will help them to clear all the doubts and confusions.

 

 Until and unless the seeker is not aware of the whole subject, he will not be aware what F.P is all about. Therefore, he must go on reading the messages and there is enough food for his thinking faculty, and ponder on them constantly until it sinks in.   Since we do not discuss other then non dual truth in this group, seekers focus of attention is not distracted on the other subjects.

 

Thus creating the proper base of understanding is necessary before indulging in the pursuit of truth.

 

 

NATURAL STATE

 

The state of the realized mind [Gnani] is something like experiencing the tranquility of the deep sleep consciously. Imagine the deep sleep one is free from burden and bondage, but when the wisdom dawn the realized mind or Gnani is consciously experiencing the tranquility of the deep sleep in the midst of the waking experience.

 

 

For the seeker who has learnt to view and judge the worldview on the base of Atman as self, is fully aware of the fact that ,the Waking experience is flowing out of that Atman, and  Atman is not involved in anything within the waking experience, because it is not an entity or identity within the waking experience. And he is also fully aware of the fact that Atman is only formless substance and witness of the waking experience. Therefore, the individual experiences such as birth, life and death are nothing to with Atman.  Thus the ethics and moral conducts and karma [actions] are nothing to in pursuit of truth. When the wisdom dawns, then the waking experience exists not as reality but as mirage.

 

If seekers constant focus of Attention is on the formless witness then the grace of the Atman helps the seeker and elevates him to higher understanding and realization of non-dual natural state, the most natural state, the highest state.

 

Seeker must have a firm conviction about the fact that Atman is the true self. Once this decision is taken, there is no moving away from it. The fruition of F.S is to fully understand true self, to stabilize in the true self, which is the eternal identity.

 

Seeker must have patience, the capacity to wait and see. The conviction does come by mere reading the messages once or twice, but seeker has to ponder it on constantly, until the subconscious becomes receptive and accepts it.  The darkness is the waking experience which causes the ignorance of the reality.

 

The ignorance vanishes once the seeker becomes aware of the fact that formless witness is the true self.  Once seeker becomes free from viewing and judging the worldview on the base of `I `or physical body as self, the ignorance vanishes. And the seeker will realizes the fact that the `I' is not the self, but the whole waking experience [illusion].

 

The illusion is created out of single substance and nothing exist other then that single substance which is Atman. Thus Atman pervades the whole illusion [waking or dream or mind] as its formless substance and witness.

 

Whenever seeker remembers the words of the F.P blogs, he is in the shade of the Ataman's grace. Ultimately, the experience of duality merges as Ataman. Seeker may come across great difficulties of understanding and assimilating the self-knowledge, but his courage and stability in the Ataman [true Self] should be firm.

Spiritual truth is at hand, it is but a reach away.  Every one is capable of achieving this truth of this formless substance of life.  It is within everyone's grasp.  All that is necessary is their willingness to reach out.   Seeker has to crawl out of that ignorance that plagues his realization; he has to find the truth of his true existence in order to overcome the duality which he experiences it as reality.  If seeker has intense urge and receptive mind ready to grasp the Eternal true identity then nothing can stop him. 

 First seeker must instigate this activity of finding truth, finding the true self.  It is by his own curiosity that he gets the wheels moving in this spiritual adventure.

people feel   that, finding truth of the true existence is more complicated in nature of finding and difficult, but through inquiry, analysis and reasoning on the true base it becomes easier for receptive mind to grasp and assimilate it.

Some seeker begun this journey and are well on their way, but that is not true for everyone.  There are many setbacks to overcome.  F.P is advanced spiritual guidance and helps those are less advanced.  F.p blogs  helps the seekers to move forward.  F.P convinces seekers of the truth Atman is the true self and other then Atman all else is illusion. 

 

Within the waking experience the Atman[consciousness] identifies with the physical body and perceives the world as a person.

Physical body is not the experience of physical body itself.  Then, what experiences the physical body and perceives the world as a person. Therefore, one has to know with what the physical body is able to function itself and able to perceive the world as a person. Without the formless experiencer of the physical body, they call the physical body as dead body.  Beginners have to start with this doubt and try to focus their attention on the formless experincer of the physical body.   Next step is realizing "What is mind "and "What is substance of the mind".

 

Inner Revelation:

 

Within the waking experience the Atman[consciousness] identifies with the physical body and perceives the world as a person. Thus it becomes unaware of itself, by identifying itself, as a person. As a person perceiving the world within the waking experience, it is ignorant of its formless non-dual true nature. Once it becomes aware of the fact that neither the physical body nor the `I' is the true self, then the ignorance vanishes.

 

Furthermore, it becomes aware of the fact that waking experience is mere mirage. Thus to realize the fact that the burden and bondage felt in the duality is mere mirage created out of Tammany. The author of the Waking experience is Atman not the person who exists only within the Waking experience.  Thus it is for the seeker to realize the fact that the real author of the experience of duality [mind or `I'] is Atman.  Therefore the duality is not reality on the standpoint of Atman.  Thus viewing judging the worldview on the base of false self [ego] will not help the seeker to unfold the mystery of the mind or duality. The duality exists as reality only on the false self. The truth cannot be realized on the base of false self. It is erroneous to claim the authorship of any experience as person, because person and the world are an experience within the illusory waking experience. 

 

 

Many claim that they have acquired the self -knowledge, but only superficially. They really do not know what the self- knowledge is because they think `I' is self and body is not the self; no one has really grasped the knowledge of the true self. Very few will get this knowledge correctly and absorb it deeply. Once seeker understands the fact that `I' not the self but Atman is the true self, and everything else other then Atman is mere illusion with firm convection will realize the fact the nothing exists other then Atman or spirit.

 

 

When one reads the messages, first he may feel that it is boring, but when he attempts to read them again it starts sinking in. Then he will start reading and reflecting on them constantly. Once he gets a hang of it, he will never rest until he assimilates it.  

 

Seeker Having stabilized in the Atman as self and capable of judging the worldview on the base of Atman as self , he will have a yard stick to judge what is truth and what is untruth. He can make the clear distinction between duality [untruth] and non-duality [truth].

 

 

The seeker who to sticks to the F.S guidance and reads the messages and reflect on it constantly   for long time without asking any questions, his proximity to F.S guidance the capacity to grasp  to receive this guidance becomes mature. His capacity to understand and assimilate it increases. Wisdom arises within him; it does not come from outside of him.

 

FORMLESS WITNESS WITNESSES THE EXPERIENCE OF DUALITY

 

Seeker must come to a firm decision. He must have the conviction neither the physical body not the `I' is the true self.  Furthermore, seeker must have the firm conviction that Atman is the true self", which has no form, no name. When he stabilizes in that conviction it will give all the knowledge and all the secrets to him, and when the secrets are given to him, he transcend from the experience of duality mentally, and he  will know that  the whole experience of diversity is Atman because the whole experience is mere mirage created out of Atman.

 

 Having gained all this knowledge, having understood what is what, a kind of quietude tranquility prevails. Illusion is transcended mentally and one becomes aware of the fact that the illusion is Atman through wisdom, in the midst of the illusion or experience of duality. 

The duality does not disappear, but the ignorance, which was the cause of holding the duality as reality will disappear. Thus, one gets the wisdom of witnessing the waking experience on the base of the Atman, the true self,   and becomes free from experiencing the birth, life and death as reality. And prevails eternally as birth- less and deathless self. 

Atman[consciousness] is prior to duality [mind].

One thinks he is born and the world existed prior to him, but he fails realize his idea of birth, life and death and world are reality within the illusory waking experience. When the waking experience itself is illusion the birth, life and death and the world are mere illusion on the standpoint of the formless witness which is Ataman. therefore it  is impossible to assimilate truth on the false  base.

 

Atman is prior to duality [mind].

Ataman is prior to objective awareness which is the formless substance of the objective awareness.  Man and the world are within the objective Awareness.  Pre objective awareness is Ataman or spirit.

 

The man is conscious of himself and the world within the objective awareness which is called mind. The mind is in the form of sense of `I' or feeling. The mind is the objective awareness which is identified as waking or dream.  The one which is aware [knower] of the appearance and disappearance of the three states in succession is the Ataman.

 

Seeker has to make sure of the fact that the one that witness the appearance and disappearance of the three states is not the form but the formless, because the form is within the waking or dream.  Only if the seeker can grasp the existence of the formless witness then he is ready for the higher knowledge or self-knowledge.

 

Since everyone tries views and judges the Ataman on the physical base it becomes very difficult for them to grasp the non-dual truth. 

Some intellectuals say that the universe is eternal, without beginning or end.  However, fail to observe that the man and the universe exist with in the illusion. Therefore it is necessary to know in what way it is illusion, rather then arguing on the base of the false entity within the false experience.  Only perfect understanding will lead the seeker to unfold the mystery of the mind and realize the fact that mind is the myth.

Universe and its phenomena are self-existent as illusion; thus lifeless insentient matter created and sustained by Ataman and finally dissolves and prevails as Ataman. Mind [waking experience] originates from an intelligent source alone.  That source is Ataman or spirit.

However, the man and universe exists within the waking experience. Thus the universe appears and disappears as waking or dream.  The waking and dream are in the form of mind. Mind is in the form of `I'. This I' is impermanent because it appears and disappears as waking and dream. 

The witness of the waking and dream is formless. Without the formless witness there is neither the dream nor the waking. Thus tracing the formless witness mentally realizing the formless witness which is the true self and also it is the substance of the mind will help the seeker to overcome all the doubts and confusion to realize the fact that the true self is Formless Ataman.

Many people are in confusion and still trying to find answers to their doubts: Who is this God, the Creator, the Self-contained One and the Ordainer of the universe to whom one should consecrate himself. "Some say He is Jesus, others Siva, Allah, the Sun, some avatars; others say Buddha, the life-principle, the Moon, Fire, Karma, Nature, primordial nature and what not. One gets confused because "Each sect gives a different origin for the universe. They want to know which of them is true.

Only the Ataman fits in that slot. "Ataman is the All-Seer which generates, permeates, sustains and destroys the experience of duality and prevails eternally. Ataman is ultimate truth or Brahman.

Mind [Waking experience] being insentient cannot act of its own accord; nor can intellect do so without being powered by Ataman. The universe and the men are preset only within the illusory waking experience [mind]. Man's capacities are limited to the waking experience [mind or `I']. 

Whereas the formless substance of the waking experience is perfect in it and creates the whole waking experience or dream without any external aid. This leads to the important conclusion that Ataman is independent. Otherwise, it would be reduced to a glorified human being, requiring innumerable accessories for work and influenced by seasons and environments, in no way different from a creature, and not the Ataman.

Ataman has neither body nor the other aids, yet it still creates the waking and dream.  Ignorant are taken in by the notion of giving a body to the formless identity.

 

Many claim that they have acquired the self -knowledge, but only superficially. They really do not know what the self- knowledge is because they think `I' is self, and body is not the self; no one has really grasped the knowledge of the true self which is Ataman. Very few will get this knowledge correctly and absorb it deeply. Once seeker understands the fact that `I' not the self but Ataman is the true self, and everything else other then Ataman, is mere illusion, with firm convection will realize the fact the nothing exists other then Ataman or spirit.