The self is birthless
therefore it is deathless. The one which is born lives and dies within the
world (waking) is not the self. The idea
of reincarnation is based on the birth entity (waking entity or ego) which
lives and dies within the illusory world (waking). The
self is the one which witnesses the coming and going of the dual (waking or
dream) nondual (deep sleep) experiences. When the experience of the birth, life
and death takes place in the illusion then recantation also is part of the same
illusion.
The dream becomes unreal
when waking takes place. Similarly the waking becomes unreal when wisdom dawns.
Wisdom dawns when the soul, innermost self, consciously remains awake in its
formless nondual nature. when the
substance and witness of the three states are one in essence and that essence
is consciousness. Then what value is there for the universe in, which the
experience of birth, life death and reincarnation happens. Even you take
reincarnation as reality but the reincarnation happen within the world, which
is an illusion, on the standpoint of the formless soul, the innermost
self. On the standpoint of the innermost
self
Dalai Lama
said: Buddhism
need not to be the best religion though it is most scientific and religion and
inquisitive. But Buddhism has no answer to certain questions like existence of
Atama [soul] and rebirth. Dali lama said that as an individual he
believes in rebirth as he had come across a few cases of rebirth. Modern
science, Dalai Lama hoped would unearth the mystery behind the rebirth. (In DH –dec-212009-Gulburga).
INNER PATH –BLOG--People who are
caught up with idea of reincarnation and rebirth theories are not qualified for
Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma Gnana because they accepted duality as
reality
People who believes in reincarnation and rebirth
theories are unaware of the fact that , their belief is based
on waking entity, which is the false self within the false experience.
The waking entity itself is false self within the false experience, it
means the present experience of birth, life, death and the world is
falsehood. Thus whatever is seen, known, believed and experienced as
waking entity is bound to be falsehood because the soul or consciousness the
innermost self is birthless because it is formless. Therefore the rebirth and
reincarnation theory based on the false self is bound to be falsehood.
Accepting in rebirth and reincarnation theory as reality is
accepting false self(waking entity or ego) as real self and false
experience(waking) as reality. Self-realization is impossibility if one
accepts the present waking entity as real self because the self is neither the
waking entity nor the self is dream entity but the self is formless soul
,which witnesses the coming and going of the three
states without the physical apparatus
The three states are impermanent but the soul or consciousness,
which is the witness of the three states, is permanent and eternal.
in reality the three states are one in essence. and that essence is
consciousness. Therefore there is no second thing exists other than
consciousness. Thus consciousness (Soul) is second to none.
Deeper self -search reveals the fact that, the waking experiences itself is illusion. It means the present experience of birth, life, death and the world are illusion. Thus the reincarnation theory based on the false self within the false experience is bound to be falsehood. When the waking entity is not the self than whatever theories is based on the waking entity imagined theory.
This imagined theory based on the waking entity or ego is for
those lower minds set who are incapable of grasping the ultimate truth or
Brahman.
People who are caught up with idea of reincarnation and rebirth
theories are not qualified for Self-Knowledge or Brahma Gnana or Atma
Gnana because they accepted duality as reality . Birth implies duality and duality
is falsehood from the ultimate standpoint.
--
From The
Teachings of Sri Ramana Maharishi
Edited by David Godman
Question:- is reincarnation true?
Sri Ramana Maharshi: - Reincarnation
exists only so long as there is ignorance. There is really no reincarnation at
all, either now or before. Nor will there be any hereafter. This is the truth.
[Note:
Comments by David Godman: Most religions have constructed elaborate theories
which purport to explain what happens to the individual soul after the death of
the body. Some claim that the soul goes to heaven or hell while others claim
that it is reincarnated in a new body.
Sri
Ramana Maharshi taught that all such theories are based on the false assumption
that the individual self or soul is real; once this illusion is
seen through, the whole superstructure of after-life theories collapses. From
the standpoint of the Self, there is no birth or death, no heaven or hell, and
no reincarnation.
As
a concession to those who were unable to assimilate the implications of this
truth, Sri Ramana would sometimes admit that reincarnation existed. In replying
to such people he would say that if one imagined that the individual self was
real, then that imaginary self would persist after death and that eventually it
would identify with a new body and a new life. The whole process, he said, is
sustained by the tendency of the mind to identify itself with a body. Once the
limiting illusion of mind is transcended, identification with the body ceases,
and all theories about death and reincarnation are found to be inapplicable.]
